The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

[culverwood]



A wedding tie is classic daywear and best in direct sunlight, but not the best choice for an evening wedding since it lacks proper contrast and doesn't look great in camera. I am sure you know this, but don't care.

That makes sense. In the UK most wedding ties are based on a silver/grey/white background and perhaps a darker tie would be more suitable for an evening wedding.

 

[Manton]

I don't like dark ties for weddings, they look too funereal.

 

[culverwood]

Fair enough.

 

[ThinkDerm]

good makers of OTR shirts that take studs?

 

[dopey]



good makers of OTR shirts that take studs?

Paul Stuart. I would guess Brooks Brothers and J.Press, though those will be lesser quality. Paul Stuart did a nice job, but mine is about a dozen years old.

 

[TheFoo]

How much is Paul Stuart charging for a shirt these days? If you have the time, you might be better off using Geneva.

 

[dopey]

http://www.paulstuart.com/category_...odCatId=1035&SubProdCatId=2012&headermenuid=1

 

[unbelragazzo]

At Geneva, be sure to ask specifically if you want studs farther apart than buttons on a normal dress shirt, which I think is the default.

 

[Manton]

The one thing I forgot to do was to ask for stiff interlining for the collar, cuffs and bib. they used the same soft stuff which I love for me regular shirts but it really doesn't work for the formal shirt. The shirt is otherwise great, though.

 

[ThinkDerm]



How much is Paul Stuart charging for a shirt these days? If you have the time, you might be better off using Geneva.

how much did rubi charge for the tux?

also, how much does rubi charge for standalone pair of trousers? (black tie; regular)

 

[TheFoo]



http://www.paulstuart.com/category_...odCatId=1035&SubProdCatId=2012&headermenuid=1

Yeah . . . for that price, I'd rather go bespoke.

The one thing I forgot to do was to ask for stiff interlining for the collar, cuffs and bib. they used the same soft stuff which I love for me regular shirts but it really doesn't work for the formal shirt. The shirt is otherwise great, though.

Huh, they suggested a stiffer interlining for mine but I insisted on the softest they had, as I would use on a normal shirt. It seems to me the facing is more than enough to keep things straight. Anyway, I don't like a collar that looks board stiff--even on a dinner shirt.

how much did rubi charge for the tux?

also, how much does rubi charge for standalone pair of trousers? (black tie; regular)

I think a tux is something like 5,000 euros. There is surcharge over the price of a standard suit. Trousers, I'm not sure. But I think charge somewhere around 1,000 euros for a standard pair.

 

[Manton]

I really don't like the softness of mine and I don't think the pique is at all stiff.

 

[TimelesStyle]



good makers of OTR shirts that take studs?

I learned on here, and hadn't previously known, that formal shirts were supposed to have three studs only, not four, so if you want a shirt with only three stud holes, you'll be hard pressed to find one OTR. I suppose you could have a button added, or simply wear the fourth stud (as I do).

At Geneva, be sure to ask specifically if you want studs farther apart than buttons on a normal dress shirt, which I think is the default.

Is this because of the issue I noted above (only having three studs where one would usually have four buttons)?

 

[dopey]



I learned on here, and hadn't previously known, that formal shirts were supposed to have three studs only, not four, so if you want a shirt with only three stud holes, you'll be hard pressed to find one OTR. I suppose you could have a button added, or simply wear the fourth stud (as I do).
Is this because of the issue I noted above (only having three studs where one would usually have four buttons)?

Think about that statement for a while. It isn't 100% crazy but it does point to something.

 

[TheFoo]

We are creating a brave new world, D. You should be enjoying your influential role in the project.