The Official Artisanal "streetwear" footwear (boots, shoes, sandals) thread (Guidi, CCP, Augusta, M.

[Jbravo]

so you are ok with $2450 price tag?

Yea, he's ok, though he does not own a single pair probably.

 

[skeen7908]

I still need someone to talk me down from buying them

 

[fistinyoface]

C'mon, man. You realise these guys have to pay shipping costs and import duties on all of these things. It's not a great mystery. No one is forcing you to buy them.

Vitamori posted a comment about this on SZ here on cost differences for Japanese designers, though it applies to any international crossover.

There are two reasons for the cost differences: first, Japanese retailers use very low markups with the permission of the designers. They are standardized throughout the country and are substantially less than what these same designers mandate for the rest of the world (and it should be noted, contrary to the general opinion, the prices of all artisan designer fashion are set to within +/- 5% by the designers themselves, not the retailers). Second, when you're looking at a one-off or super limited production piece, the pattern has to be made just for that piece, then scaled if more than one size is being made; production is done entirely by hand, which means the regular production stops. So there will always be substantial cost differences.

Hopefully this is all informative as part of the ongoing dialogue.

 

[nahneun]

sinnedk and jbravo have shown time and time again that they are rather lacking intellectually

 

[sinnedk]



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C'mon, man. You realise these guys have to pay shipping costs and import duties on all of these things. It's not a great mystery. No one is forcing you to buy them.

Vitamori posted a comment about this on SZ here on cost differences for Japanese designers, though it applies to any international crossover.

There are two reasons for the cost differences: first, Japanese retailers use very low markups with the permission of the designers. They are standardized throughout the country and are substantially less than what these same designers mandate for the rest of the world (and it should be noted, contrary to the general opinion, the prices of all artisan designer fashion are set to within +/- 5% by the designers themselves, not the retailers). Second, when you're looking at a one-off or super limited production piece, the pattern has to be made just for that piece, then scaled if more than one size is being made; production is done entirely by hand, which means the regular production stops. So there will always be substantial cost differences.


Hopefully this is all informative as part of the ongoing dialogue.

Yes of course i realize. I was unaware that the Italian designers may be setting some special prices in Italy. Although, i was just there a few weeks ago and between Rome/Florence/Venice there were a total of 2 places that carried A1923. Hence, i am not sure the special mark up argument may work here.

I do understand that a special piece will need patterns/lasts/etc. But we are discussing a full run here.

Anyways, all in all, yes there are costs of doing business but for the price to fluctuate so much over so little time is shocking thats all.

 

[sinnedk]



sinnedk and jbravo have shown time and time again that they are rather lacking intellectually

Now why would you say that? You know you come in here and bud into a discussion and cause hostility. Why?

I understand you want to troll but why not do it elsewhere?

 

[nahneun]

pretty sure you don't

 

[sinnedk]



pretty sure you don't

At this point you are just messing up the thread as usual.

 

[nahneun]

pretty sure your unintelligent drivel is worse.

remember, i am reacted to your dumb posts. you're clogging the thread with dumb thoughts and inane posts as usual.

 

[Jbravo]

sinnedk and jbravo have shown time and time again that they are rather lacking intellectually

Remember *****, dumb people can't afford to buy shoes that cost over 2000 dollars. Think about it

 

[sinnedk]



pretty sure your unintelligent drivel is worse.

remember, i am reacted to your dumb posts. you're clogging the thread with dumb thoughts and inane posts as usual.

thats not true, you came in here and started trolling.

bye now

 

[nahneun]

ITT: dumb whiny butthurt kids

 

[Dorje]

Well nobody knows the production costs or how many hours goes into producing the leather and then the boot and nobody is going to tell us either. But I'd expect a cost around 5-10% of retail if it's at all typical of other luxury markets I'm more familiar with. There's a lot less economy of scale and a lot more work done by hand, you can't compare them to mainstream, but on the other hand markups in luxury markets tend to be extreme.

Personally, I think it's fine if they want to make very expensive boots, I'm all for it and I love seeing the work even if I can't afford it. But, it would be nice of they offer a range of products, I only want a simple boot with decent leather and without distressing, I can do that myself easily enough.

Also, I own a few pairs of shoes/boots over the baller retail threshold set in this thread all by different makers, and after you get to a certain point you are paying for the design and quality varies quite a bit even among more expensive shoes. So it's nice to get good quality but you can get great quality shoes for much less than baller money, my $250 Lowa heavy backpacking boots will outlast anything in this thread by a large margin.

 

[Jbravo]

Love you too, my little asian brother. Mmmmppua

 

[Dorje]

WTF just happened when I was typing that?

If you don't respond to trolling they don't cause pages of BS.