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i'd be more concerned with the tailor's reputation and skills than where his shop is located
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I don't think the number of times he can wear a tuxedo will be affected by having one tux or another if it's a matter of opportunity, nor would an Itaewon tux fall apart after 2 wearings, if you're implying that - that's more than a little provincial sounding, and based on what facts? I think the guys who post on here are coming here to seek advice, rather than the kind of day to day uninformed hearsay that they are probably specifically trying to avoid. If you can't get what you're looking for in Itaewon, you aren't gonna get it anywhere else in Seoul. If it's workmanship; they are all on the same level, and if it's cloth; they can get it, it's a motorcycle ride away from any other part of town. That the tailors downtown cost more money, they are better?
You're saying he should forget the reasonably priced, reasonably good product that it appears he can afford, so that he can spend world class money ($1200) on a product that is surely not world class, just so that he can tell people he bought something in Sogong-dong, South Korea and not Itaewon? Yeah right. Because everybody knows what that means.
This is horseshit and makes you sound like the Korean hermes man
sounds you had ever gotten an extraly good service in itaewon but not me. i made shirts in both savile row itaewon and in goshe apgujang, so after compared the workmanship and also the fabric of itaewon and apgujang, that was obviously different and more seriously, perhaps compared with its terrible service, the tailor just wanna your money more and then, cheated you. that was it. as to the price of shirt, savile row 60k/p and goshe 69k/p , more detail option, m ore fabric option and better craftmanship. it was my experience and of course i will not make my suit in such a tailor who is unable to trust and so rude. so, man, how do you think about it ? could you tell me what the "hermes man" is ?
world class priced garment in korea? okay, go to designer' s shops in any department store but i just wanna the thing suitable to me.
Well, you can't base these experiences on shirts. It's unfortunate I guess, but shops that deal in shirts often only do shirts (good business in itself, it's like the fast food of MTM clothes here) and then there's the suits, which are $200-299 fused MTM jobs, or $500+ full bespoke. Itaewon used to be half and half of either, now it doesn't seem to have as many of the $299 people, that business has rebranded itself and taken to places like Garosu-gil and other areas where 22-26 year old guys are likely to be, kinda strategically placed near 'date' areas. Places that do suits also do shirts as a side business, but are not really into it, and it will show. that's not to say that the stores like Zenrico or Goshe are any better, they're not. Shirts are a lost cause in Korea, like I said.
Anyway, in terms of what you will get in Korea for a shirt, if you do nothing but pick a fabric and tell them if you want a regular fit or a slim fit (which is what over 90% of customers do)
-double needle everything
-one piece yoke
-double-sided fused collar and cuffs
-permanently entombed plastic collar stays
-cheap fabric
-stock collar and cuff shapes; the collars are never that well-shaped
-plastic buttons
-no gussets (I like side gussets)
Just take it back and add fuctional cuffs. It should be no charge.I had the tuxedo made at Hahn's. I'm happy with the exceptions of the cuffs not working and that the jacket pockets were convertible besom flaps rather than standard double besom flaps. I should have been more explicit when ordering, but I wasn't. Neither is a deal breaker for me, it isn't like I'm paying *real* Saville Row prices (as opposed to the Korean tailor "Saville Row"), and the flaps can be tucked in. Who knows, maybe I'll like having the option of flaps if that ever comes into style? The cuffs honestly bother me a lot more.
Otherwise, I have no complaints. The satin seems to be of a good quality, rather than polyester or nylon like I've seen elsewhere in Itaewon. It fits well even with a single fitting (my own time constraint), and it looks good regardless of the cuffs.
I'll post pictures soon.
It's not possible for them to change a Korean-style non-working cuff (I'm guessing the ends don't even open at all, this is the cheapest way for them to make a suit, and the default if you don't specify anything) to a working cuff. Different patterns, and you can't just magically add fabric to it to happen. They'd have to take the sleeves off and completely reconstruct them, at the cost of the jacket teardown plus a yard of fabric - do you think that is really gonna happen? LOL.
-double needle everything (i think at least 3/4 stitching process is single-needle sewing)
-one piece yoke (most shirts are one piece yoke but if you know two-piece split yoke you can talk with the owner, they can do this and all of my shirts are two-piece split yoke though the shoulder shape looks a little bit folding. maybe they do not do this often)
-double-sided fused collar and cuffs (exactly. i request for interlining collar and cuffs but unacceptable)
-permanently entombed plastic collar stays (exactly)
-cheap fabric (goshe has some fabrics priced over 100k even 150k. the ordinary price ranges are 69k and 99k and you can get a little bit better fabric if you choose the later )
-stock collar and cuff shapes; the collars are never that well-shaped (i don't know whether or not they are from stock, the collar styles are okay and the shape, in my opinion, it is acceptable)
-plastic buttons (yes but you can get mop tottons for free if you choose 99k range shirt)
-no gussets (I like side gussets) (hehe, i don't know whether they can do this because i don't request )
other more details they can offer:
-monogram-but it needs extra payment
-at least more compact sewing than savile row. i discussed this item with the guy for half an hour he told me goshe can sew 16 stitches per inch, at most 18 per inch depends on the fabric and thread
items need further promotion
-the corners of plackets were not carefully tailored
-all cuffs stitched one thread in the middle of it. i don't know why, i don't like it.
-cuffs corner shape were not carefully treated enough
-gauntlet botton sometimes was not in the right place
holy cow are those suits canvassed at all? or fused? how do they make a profit if they are making you an actual suit for $150 or less?;Those two were also significantly cheaper (GQ can do 2-piece suits from 140k to 170k, Mr. Oh I think is a touch more expensive but not much).