Serious Crimes Against CM

[Griffindork]



There's a big difference between square toe and chisel

Describe the difference to me please.

 

[jrd617]



Describe the difference to me please.

 

[Gus]

Mixing patterns of the same scale

 

[red81]

i actually have those kenneth cole shoes (lace up).

which only solidifies my need to go buy park avenues and throw those out.

 

[Griffindork]



Cleverley describes their shoes as "suspiciously square". If you don't own Cleverley bespoke, you probably shouldn't comment. Do you own the shoes, or are you just pontificating?

 

[Griffindork]



There's a big difference between square toe and chisel

Serious question jrd617: are those your Cleverley's in the picture?

 

[jrd617]

Don't mess with agjiffy. He will stalk your closet purge threads and call you out for any Plebeian brands you own.

 

[Griffindork]



Lesson #1: don't mess with agjiffy. He will stalk your closet purge threads and make judgements!

That is all true. I'm gonna ad a rule for all the "noobs". If you don't have experience, and you don't know what you are talking about, just keep your mouth shut. It may not increase your SF post count, and it won't drive traffic to your blog, but it beats publicizing your ignorance, and it is better to be silent than to be a studio gangster.

 

[jrd617]



That is all true. I'm gonna ad a rule for all the "noobs". If you don't have experience, and you don't know what you are talking about, just keep your mouth shut. It may not increase your SF post count, and it won't drive traffic to your blog, but it beats publicizing your ignorance, and it is better to be silent than to be a studio gangster.

I have a set of eyes, and those Cleverleys are not what most here would associate with "square toes." You're just being polemical/trollish.

Cleverley can call them whatever he wants and characterize the slightly perpendicular toe as "severely square," but those aint square toes in the SF conception.

Come on now, quit being a dick

These are square toes

 

[DLester]

I have some time to kill before I got to meet with my PO, so I thought I would share thoughts.

Horrible, no exceptions:

- square-toed shoes
- matching tie and pocket square sets (people do this?)
- ties worn without jackets ("wud you like the 100 minutes plan or 500 minutes plan?")

but this can look good if properly executed

- black suits
- black odd trousers
- black or any other dark shirts
- jackets that don't cover your rear end (you mean that fail to cover one's ass completely? that would be most jackets now.....)
- navy odd trousers or gray odd jackets (why hating this?)

 

[jrd617]

In 1898 George Cleverley was born on the into
a shoemaking family in London. George moved to Colchester in Essex with his parents when he was aged two and spent his childhood selling bootlaces & polish. After finishing his apprenticeship at 15, he was called up to the Army for World War I and stationed in London before joining an army boot factory in Calais, France.

After the war he joined Tuczec, a high society London shoemaker on Clifford Street, Mayfair. He remained there for 38 years. George left Tuczec in 1958 to start up his own business
G.J.Cleverley of Cork Street, Mayfair, London On Cork Street he furthered his reputation to include some of the most illustrious names
in society and became known for making the Cleverley shape - a graceful, chisel-toed shoe which became signature to his extraordinary craft. George died in 1991 at nearly 93 years of age and was still working, virtually, until he died.

 

[ryansto]

Forgive the repetition. It's easier than quoting multiple posts:
-Matching tie and PS
-Black shoes and tan pants
-Square-toed shoes (not chiseled)

And (unless I missed them) my additions:
-Going belt-less when pants have belt loops
-Suit jacket worn as SC
-Too much break in trousers
-Improper proportion between: tie knot, shirt collar, and jacket lapel

 

[Griffindork]



I'm not sure why you keep stretching to post, and I don't know what you are quoting, but here is the artisan:
“It’s Mr. Cleverley’s shape that defines us,” says George Glasgow, of the unique chiseled toe designed by the founder of G. J. Cleverley & Co., the company he now owns. “He,” says Glasgow, who apprenticed with Cleverley for ten years before the master shoemaker’s death in 1993, “used to describe it as the suspiciously square toe.”

 

[Griffindork]



I have a set of eyes, and those Cleverleys are not what most here would associate with "square toes." You're just being polemical/trollish.

Cleverley can call them whatever he wants and characterize the slightly perpendicular toe as "severely square," but those aint square toes in the SF conception.

Come on now, quit being a dick

These are square toes

I'm not being trollish. I'm just asking you to support the premise that you stood up for (square toe shoes are inherently wrong). You've come up with a semantic argument as to why Cleverley isn't square toe (despite the fact that Cleverley calls it square toe). I'm asking you to draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable. If you can't do it, or you can't do it by referencing Cleverley, maybe you should rethink your position. If you don't have any Cleverley shoes, then maybe leave it out of your argument. I can tell you that the toes are square.

 

[Griffindork]

So that we can stop speaking theoretically, some Cleverley shoes: