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Serious Crimes Against CM

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by unbelragazzo, Mar 29, 2013.

  1. JubeiSpiegel

    JubeiSpiegel Senior member

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    How about jackets without pocket squares, full Windsor knots, skinny lapels...

    Too many... :confused:
     
  2. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    Jackets without pocket squares?
     
  3. Master Shake

    Master Shake Senior member

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    Buttoning the bottom button of a jacket.
     
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  4. Snaporaz

    Snaporaz Active Member

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    Doing up a shirt's top button when not wearing a tie...
     
  5. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    Agreed on this one. It still shocks me that people even do it. I thought everyone knew this.
     
  6. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    Describe the difference to me please.
     
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  7. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    :crackup:
     
  8. GusW

    GusW Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Mixing patterns of the same scale :fu:
     
  9. red81

    red81 Senior member

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    i actually have those kenneth cole shoes (lace up).

    which only solidifies my need to go buy park avenues and throw those out.
     
  10. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    Cleverley describes their shoes as "suspiciously square". If you don't own Cleverley bespoke, you probably shouldn't comment. Do you own the shoes, or are you just pontificating?
     
  11. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    Serious question jrd617: are those your Cleverley's in the picture?
     
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  12. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Don't mess with agjiffy. He will stalk your closet purge threads and call you out for any Plebeian brands you own.
     
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  13. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    That is all true. I'm gonna ad a rule for all the "noobs". If you don't have experience, and you don't know what you are talking about, just keep your mouth shut. It may not increase your SF post count, and it won't drive traffic to your blog, but it beats publicizing your ignorance, and it is better to be silent than to be a studio gangster.
     
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  14. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    I have a set of eyes, and those Cleverleys are not what most here would associate with "square toes." You're just being polemical/trollish.

    Cleverley can call them whatever he wants and characterize the slightly perpendicular toe as "severely square," but those aint square toes in the SF conception.

    Come on now, quit being a dick

    These are square toes

     
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  15. DLester

    DLester Senior member

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    I have some time to kill before I got to meet with my PO, so I thought I would share thoughts.

    Horrible, no exceptions:

    - square-toed shoes
    - matching tie and pocket square sets (people do this?)
    - ties worn without jackets ("wud you like the 100 minutes plan or 500 minutes plan?")

    but this can look good if properly executed

    - black suits
    - black odd trousers
    - black or any other dark shirts
    - jackets that don't cover your rear end (you mean that fail to cover one's ass completely? that would be most jackets now.....)
    - navy odd trousers or gray odd jackets (why hating this?)
     
  16. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    :confused:

     
  17. ryansto

    ryansto Well-Known Member

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    Forgive the repetition. It's easier than quoting multiple posts:
    -Matching tie and PS
    -Black shoes and tan pants
    -Square-toed shoes (not chiseled)

    And (unless I missed them) my additions:
    -Going belt-less when pants have belt loops
    -Suit jacket worn as SC
    -Too much break in trousers
    -Improper proportion between: tie knot, shirt collar, and jacket lapel
     
  18. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    I'm not sure why you keep stretching to post, and I don't know what you are quoting, but here is the artisan:
    “It’s Mr. Cleverley’s shape that defines us,” says George Glasgow, of the unique chiseled toe designed by the founder of G. J. Cleverley & Co., the company he now owns. “He,” says Glasgow, who apprenticed with Cleverley for ten years before the master shoemaker’s death in 1993, “used to describe it as the suspiciously square toe.”
     
  19. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    I'm not being trollish. I'm just asking you to support the premise that you stood up for (square toe shoes are inherently wrong). You've come up with a semantic argument as to why Cleverley isn't square toe (despite the fact that Cleverley calls it square toe). I'm asking you to draw the line between acceptable and unacceptable. If you can't do it, or you can't do it by referencing Cleverley, maybe you should rethink your position. If you don't have any Cleverley shoes, then maybe leave it out of your argument. I can tell you that the toes are square.
     
  20. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    So that we can stop speaking theoretically, some Cleverley shoes:
     
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