Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Gdot, Nov 29, 2011.
you're not serious about AE, are you?
if you ask - cliff roberts
Th SL at the price point are totally acceptable. Its the shoes that are using the same internal as SL but costing 4 times as much that are an issue. If you are selling a true rolls royce at rolls royce price fine. but not rolls royce price for a beautified toyota. The price theoritically should match the build techniques.
Would love to find a vintage beautified Toyota...
Can't touch this.
But what happens if the Rolls Royce turns out to be just a great big BMW underneath?
That's a very good point...although for me, at least, it is just as important that people don't confuse or equate the Toyota with the Rolls Royce even if only in their own mind.
If a person is happy with the Toyota, be happy with it because it is a Toyota...and serves your financial and transportation needs...not because it is masquerading as a Rolls or because it might fool some ignorant someone into believing it is a Rolls Royce or something in the same category. And don't tout it in a Rolls Royce forum---the better part of wisdom.
To carry on with the same kind of metaphor...hamburger is beef but it is not rib eye. If you have a hamburger pocketbook, or cannot see the advantage to a medium rare rib eye, don't try to tell yourself (or anyone else) you're eating an equivalent cut..
alpha as f.ck
Well the rolls royce may now be made by BMW but it isn't to the same specs. For starters the most important difference is the all aluminum frame which is significantly stiffer than the BMW 7 series and far more corrosion resistant. So the tone is set quite different from the very beginning. But your right even that frame isn't all that impressive when you think of how and what it could be made off.
If someone had substantial money (think hundreds of millions) they could certainly convince a custom builder to truly build a car designed to last forever that is assembled from corrosion immune alloys. If that someone was me I would start looking at the makers of battle tanks or trains or heavy mining equipment certainly not any current car manufacturer.
They can't compare to Carmina or CJ Handgrade, of course, but I believe I'd choose them over SL...
E might well match or slightly exceed SL quality in terms of leather/tannage and even the amount of detailing on the uppers. I wouldn't be at all suprised if AE didn't prove to be more durable than SL.
But from a stylistic standpoint I couldn't go there.
I would also imagine that the value proposition changes between Europe and the US, given shipping charges, etc. Over here, they seem among the better deals for the price (excluding sales, etc.). How much do they charge for shipping to the US?
Well yeah, style wise I'd choose SL over AE any day (the only AE shoe I like is the Strand) but that's subjective... Quality-wise, I'm just a little more confident about AE ...
In Paris even C&J offers patine treatment (for €50 I think) so it is, indeed, not really something outside the (dandy) norm. I only have one heavily pattinated pair (custom order from Corthay) and it is still quite discrete compared to that stuff.
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