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Septieme Largeur footwear - Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Gdot, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. Northampton Novice

    Northampton Novice Senior member

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    But what happens if the Rolls Royce turns out to be just a great big BMW underneath?

    :paranoia:
     
  3. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    That's a very good point...although for me, at least, it is just as important that people don't confuse or equate the Toyota with the Rolls Royce even if only in their own mind.

    If a person is happy with the Toyota, be happy with it because it is a Toyota...and serves your financial and transportation needs...not because it is masquerading as a Rolls or because it might fool some ignorant someone into believing it is a Rolls Royce or something in the same category. And don't tout it in a Rolls Royce forum---the better part of wisdom.

    To carry on with the same kind of metaphor...hamburger is beef but it is not rib eye. If you have a hamburger pocketbook, or cannot see the advantage to a medium rare rib eye, don't try to tell yourself (or anyone else) you're eating an equivalent cut..
     
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    alpha as f.ck
     
  5. Xenon

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    Well the rolls royce may now be made by BMW but it isn't to the same specs. For starters the most important difference is the all aluminum frame which is significantly stiffer than the BMW 7 series and far more corrosion resistant. So the tone is set quite different from the very beginning. But your right even that frame isn't all that impressive when you think of how and what it could be made off.

    If someone had substantial money (think hundreds of millions) they could certainly convince a custom builder to truly build a car designed to last forever that is assembled from corrosion immune alloys. If that someone was me I would start looking at the makers of battle tanks or trains or heavy mining equipment certainly not any current car manufacturer.
     
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    They can't compare to Carmina or CJ Handgrade, of course, but I believe I'd choose them over SL...
     
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    Gdot Senior member

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    E might well match or slightly exceed SL quality in terms of leather/tannage and even the amount of detailing on the uppers. I wouldn't be at all suprised if AE didn't prove to be more durable than SL.

    But from a stylistic standpoint I couldn't go there.
     
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    I would also imagine that the value proposition changes between Europe and the US, given shipping charges, etc. Over here, they seem among the better deals for the price (excluding sales, etc.). How much do they charge for shipping to the US?
     
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    Well yeah, style wise I'd choose SL over AE any day (the only AE shoe I like is the Strand) but that's subjective... Quality-wise, I'm just a little more confident about AE ...
     
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    In Paris even C&J offers patine treatment (for €50 I think) so it is, indeed, not really something outside the (dandy) norm. I only have one heavily pattinated pair (custom order from Corthay) and it is still quite discrete compared to that stuff.
     
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    I've had a pair for about 6 months now. They are stiff as fuck. Excuse my language. They look good, but dont expect leather anywhere close to ex. C&J og Santoni.
     
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    this was the background. :fistbump:

     
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    davesmith Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    WOW!! This thread is full of win.
     
  14. Gdot

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    LOL
     
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    Oh, I see. I agree that environment can be a factor depending on how much you want to mesh with a certain milieu (or not), your body shape on the other hand (Middle-europeans tend to be bigger then Meditteraneans) is always there with you. I have trouble imagining a large businessman from Dusseldorf wearing some grey flannel double-breasted suit with sleek patinated blue chelseas. This goes back to the styleforum shoe/rest of the person&outfit disconnect I often mention.
     
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    exactly & this
     
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    Just thought that I would post my opinions, since I just recently received a pair of SL that I bought during the sale.
    I will start out by saying that I'm no where near a "shoe expert", the only good shoes I own are these SL, a pair of C&J Brecon and a pair of captoes made by Sutor Mantellassi for Luigi Borelli. I'll also go ahead and mention that English is my third language, so I beg that any of you who read this will overlook any glaringly obvious mistakes on my part.

    The shoes I chose to order is a Jodphur boot, since I've had a hard time finding a reasonably priced one that I like. The leather quality is quite some ways of the leather of my C&J, which is thinner and much softer. This was to be expected, but I quite like the thickness of the leather, I think it's quite fitting for a boot which will mostly be used for country and casual wear.

    The shoe is made on SL last 174, which is quite sleek, if not as (in my subjective opinion) pretty as last 341. I will, however, say that the SL fit my feet extremely well so far. They were comfortable from the very first moment of me putting them on. When I was about to order I inquired about which size I ought to order, and I was recommended to order a UK8,5. I decided to go with my own hunch, and got myself a UK9, just as my Brecon. If I had went with the size recommended by customer service I would definitely have had to return them.

    These shoes have a rubber sole which resembles a Danite sole, but it most definitely isn't made by Danite, it's just not as nice and the heel pattern is different.. I will say that the sole is acceptable in any case, I think it'll last and I get a good grip with them.

    My overall opinion is that they are nice for the price I paid, and bear in mind that I live in the EU, so I don't get VAT deducted. They might not be to the high standards of most members here, but personally I wouldn't mind buying another pair next time the sale comes around.
     
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    Jakezero - Your English is very good and your post a valuable contribution. Particularly since you are judging a product once you have worn it and not merely passing comment based on a photo.

    I have a colleague who owns some Septieme Largeur, he's perfectly satisfied with them. I have seen them age and can ascertain how the quality of materials, workmanship, finish etc is...
    Whilst they are not a brand I'd consider for myself, I can certainly appreciate the appeal.
     
  19. Gdot

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    Here are the shoes from the original post in this thread on their 3rd or 4th wearing.

    I have applied several layers of cream polish in brown, navy, and cognac in order to slightly darken the color. Perhaps a bit too much?

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    I rubbed the cream polishes in very briskly and deeply in order to drive the oils into the leather - this has slightly improved the flexibility of the leather - it is a little less stiff - although still far from luciously soft and pliable.
     
  20. Northampton Novice

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    Based on the photo and comparing to before I'd say so.

    They are still good lookers, but are you getting a little over zealous with all the creaming? (across all your shoes)
     

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