schmata: from rags to riches to rags

[brad-t]

Originally Posted by constant struggle

Well that is what is great about America, you can do those things.

hmmm yes the american economic system seems to be working really well right now

 

[constant struggle]

What about smaller companies... Take for such Audiovox, competes with sony, panasonic, etc...
161 Million Dollar Company
Their CEO makes just shy of 1 million a year... is that greedy? He runs a 161 million dollar company... now put this in perspective of billion dollar companies... think about it
http://people.forbes.com/profile/patrick-m-lavelle/8564

 

[constant struggle]

Originally Posted by Uncontrol

yes because there is nothing between "do job for free" and "make ridiculous sums of money by exploiting everyone who works under you"

http://jesuitjottings.blogspot.com/2...-hartmann.html

Yes, because an article from "jesuitjottings" really makes it credible...

 

[Mauro]

^^ I don't know if I agree with that. Maybe it's just my mind set. I would rather see my company succeed and the reap the benefits. I think just looking at a bottom line is a crappy way to go.

wouldn't you rather live a GOOD life and let your employees do the same or would you rather live a GREAT life and have your employees do things half assed and struggle to get by.

I am by NO means a big company but I believe that the guys and gals who work for me are really happy with their jobs and want to do a great job because they know they will be rewared instead of just me being rewarded.

 

[brad-t]

Originally Posted by constant struggle

What about smaller companies... Take for such Audiovox, competes with sony, panasonic, etc...
161 Million Dollar Company
Their CEO makes just shy of 1 million a year... is that greedy? He runs a 161 million dollar company... now put this in perspective of billion dollar companies... think about it
http://people.forbes.com/profile/patrick-m-lavelle/8564

Then that would make him not the sort of person I am talking about, wouldn't it?

Also, it's a good article regardless of who wrote it. Aside from that, I actually linked to someone quoting the article by accident. The original link:

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/27

 

[brad-t]

Originally Posted by Mauro

^^ I don't know if I agree with that. Maybe it's just my mind set. I would rather see my company succeed and the reap the benefits. I think just looking at a bottom line is a crappy way to go.

wouldn't you rather live a GOOD life and let your employees do the same or would you rather live a GREAT life and have your employees do things half assed.

I am by NO means a big company but I believe that the guys and gals who work for me are really happy with their jobs and want to do a great job because they know they will be rewared instread of just me being rewarded.

This is totally the right way to go about things. I think it is completely possible -- and probably less stressful (if you're not a sociopath) -- to run a business honestly. I do think that people will be attracted to an honest, good product. Sure, loads of people would rather buy garbage instead, but you cannot win over the hearts of everyone, but you don't need to anyway.

I am not suggesting business owners live in poverty and give their **** away. I'm saying there are ways to make money honestly and many CEOs ignore that and exploit their employees and processes, and the number doing this in America is disproportionately high compared to the rest of the world.

DISCLAIMER: i'm a canadian living in quebec paying insane taxes but i don't give a **** because living here owns

 

[Geste]

Originally Posted by Mauro

^^ I don't know if I agree with that. Maybe it's just my mind set. I would rather see my company succeed and the reap the benefits. I think just looking at a bottom line is a crappy way to go.

wouldn't you rather live a GOOD life and let your employees do the same or would you rather live a GREAT life and have your employees do things half assed.

I am by NO means a big company but I believe that the guys and gals who work for me are really happy with their jobs and want to do a great job because they know they will be rewared instread of just me being rewarded.

That was the most moving segment in the SCHMATA documentary. Each garment/ manufactorer/ owner expressed the same exact thoughts.

 

[Mauro]

^^ its on HBO on demand , right???

 

[Geste]

..yes

 

[constant struggle]

There are plenty of honest, hard working, caring about employee CEOs, probably more of those than ones who don't care. Not every company is a HUGE and has a "GREEDY" CEO making millions, etc...


If it is so easy to become a greedy CEO, why doesn't everyone do it?

Also if your company is not competitive, not making money, your workers won't have a job.

 

[Mauro]

I am going to watch it. I am so sick and the ******* is close by. I will call you later !

 

[brad-t]

Originally Posted by constant struggle

There are plenty of honest, hard working, caring about employee CEOs, probably more of those than ones who don't care. Not every company is a HUGE and has a "GREEDY" CEO making millions, etc....

ummm yes and i clearly mentioned those and did not lump them in with everyone else, but you're so blinded by your neurological trigger to defend capitalism that you probably didn't notice

If it is so easy to become a greedy CEO, why doesn't everyone do it?

Where did I say it was easy? Are you insane or something?

Also if your company is not competitive, not making money, your workers won't have a job.

clearly, the only way to make money is to exploit everything you can

this is such a "**** you, got mine" attitude you're hilarious keep posting

 

[brad-t]

current struggle are you bernie madoff irl

 

[constant struggle]

No
and I am not a CEO, I am young, and at the bottom of the corporate totem pole if you know what I mean... do I aspire to one day be able to be a CEO of a company? Of course... doesn't mean I am greedy. Doesn't mean I am going to exploit workers...

You made the blanket statement that all CEO's are greedy not me.

 

[brad-t]

Originally Posted by constant struggle

No
and I am not a CEO, I am young, and at the bottom of the corporate totem pole if you know what I mean... do I aspire to one day be able to be a CEO of a company? Of course... doesn't mean I am greedy. Doesn't mean I am going to exploit workers...

You made the blanket statement that all CEO's are greedy not me.

sure if you want to be pedantic about it i did not specify "a sizable amount of american ceos", "prominent american ceos", but anyone who isn't completely marsupialed was probably able to figure out what i was saying especially when i was ******* praising mauro