RM Williams Boots - Everything You Wanted to Know

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  1. Sator

    Sator Senior member

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    Does anyone know how the Craftsman compares in sizing (length only) to Church's 108 last? Would I need the same size or would I need to size down in RMW?

    Same size. Still, the Craftsman runs a tiny fraction wider than any of Church's lasts. But it isn't significant enough to fiddle with sizes/widths.
     


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    Seems President Bush is a new fan of RMWs! http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/arc...liam/index.php
    As part of the Australian American Leadership Dialogue earlier this year, I had the opportunity to hang out with Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd at the Willard Hotel. He's very cool. I asked him what he talked about with President Bush earlier in the day. He said a few things -- but what was most memorable is that Rudd told me that Bush coveted Kevin Rudd's boots -- which were R.M Williams boots. Other Australians on hand told me that they were tough to adjust to -- but Kevin's were custom made. Next trip to Australia, I hope to get some -- size 14 U.S. size. But it was a memorable moment. Rudd also talked climate change, China, and Iraq with Bush -- but the R.M. Williams boots took top billing.
     


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    Well today I ordered what I think may be the perfect pair of UK autumn/winter boots, the Drover. The last is B543 (Craftsman) but the leather is the thicker Vesta type with a level of water resistance and the sole is the glued, screwed and stiched Longhorn rubber.

    In terms of wear for my other pairs (pics earlier in the thread), I find I'm wearing my Yard boots a lot more than either my Craftsmen or Macquaries, but this could be due to the fact that I don't wear any of them with a suit and that the UK has had another very wet summer (making leather soles a bit of a no-no).

    I'll post pics when the Drovers arrive if anyone's interested.
     


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    Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I read through to page 23, didn't find it, and didn't really want to keep reading until page 76, so here goes: I already have a pair of 10F Craftsman, which I love, and am interested in getting a pair of the Kangaroo Buckle Boots B653K (http://www.nungar.com.au/catalog/pro...oducts_id/169). These boots have a chisel toe; my question is, can you get these on another last with a round toe such as the B529 in Sator's original post? I am envisioning that sort of sleek boot, with the brass screw construction, but with the buckle fastener instead of the traditional elastic sides. Does the RM Williams MTO program allow this level of configuration? I might also fire an email off to them about this or drop into the Brisbane RM store tomorrow to ask. Thanks in advance, Paul
     


  6. Sator

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    Yes, almost certainly, but ask RMW for the definite answer. I think it would look very nice on the B529 (going up in size and down in width).
     


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    I just found this link http://www.nungar.com.au/shop/mto-boots.htm which gives the impression that any heel or toe combination can be used, but still I will have to double check. I'm thinking of getting the B529, with buckle, brass screws and in the tan or 'honey tan' colour, to wear with khakis and the like.
     


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    I would suggest going to the RMW store to check out their swatch book. They have some interesting leathers including a burgandy colour amongst other things. I can't remember the Honey Tan but it sounds good.
     


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    Thanks for the tip (and for starting this thread), I'll try and head in tomorrow or Friday to suss it out.

    Also, someone once told me that if you go to Toowoomba or somewhere particularly rural, you can sometimes pick up the boots for about $100 cheaper. Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?
     


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    What is the height of flat hills for RTW Craftsman boots?
     


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    Went into the RM store in Brisbane today, got a copy of their latest catalogue, with all the MTO ins-and-outs. I took a good look at the screwed construction for the first time, and it really does make a huge difference to the sleekness of the last, more than I would have thought possible or practicable.

    I will scan in some pages from the catalogue and post links tomorrow.
     


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    I just found this link http://www.nungar.com.au/shop/mto-boots.htm which gives the impression that any heel or toe combination can be used, but still I will have to double check.

    I'm thinking of getting the B529, with buckle, brass screws and in the tan or 'honey tan' colour, to wear with khakis and the like.


    I have a pair in tan, and they're a pretty dark "tan". Have been interested in the honey tan myself, but never seen an actual boot in it, just colour sheet representations. So please let us know how it turns out.
     


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    Well, my Drovers appeared today so I thought I'd snap some more pics (especially as I have acquired a pair of Stockyards in the meantime).

    The Drover seems to be an MTO, at least is says so on the box. The last is B543 so the shape is the same as the Craftsman but it has the glued, screwed and welted sole from the Yard Boot. It's made from Vesta leather which is quite thick and apparently water-resistant.

    Fit is about the same as the Craftsman but they feel a lot more substantial as I would expect.

    For reference, the Stockyard is a 10H (they only come in wide fit but the shape is so different they fit well anyway), the Yard Boot and Drover are 10G and the Craftsman and Macquarie are 10.5G. All fit very well although I could go to a 10G in the Craftsman I think. The Macquarie is too narrow for me to size down.

    For fun I've posted some daylight pics below with various comparisons. The Stockyard isn't a sleek boot but it's very tough and comfortable. Interestingly, all the boots are "Brown" [​IMG]




    Stockyard (Dark Brown Oxhide) and Macquarie (Whiskey Yearling) - one is a bit more sleek....

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    Drover (Brown Vesta) and Macquarie

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    Drover and Yard Boot (Greasy Kip - quite a reddish brown)

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    Craftsman (Chestnut Yearling) and Drover

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    Drover sole

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    All five for colour/shape comparison

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    All five pairs

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    those macquaries look really nice in whiskey. Thanks for posting!
     


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    You're welcome. I think I may be addicted. [​IMG]
     


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