Tidybeard those Drovers looks awesome. Bootsonline? They stock them in the vesta standard (MTO for them). The only other place I've seen them is at some of the Brit. outdoor places. came very close to getting them rather than yard boots, but might get them anyway now that I've seen real world shots. Unrelated: For an update on the neverending sizing debate - I have complained previously that my yard boots (8G) seemed more like a 8.5D US than an 9. Having just received my first pair of craftsman, I can confirm that - to my feet - 8G in the Craftsman last is perfect. Don't know if the Yard/Turnout last might be a hair shorter or something, but just one more datapoint to those stuck buying long distance . . .