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Data for Sizing C&J 348 Last (especially for Barney’s customers)
With hopes that this will help folks in the thread for future reference (especially when buying from Barneys). These are heel to toe measurements. Certainly, folks buying from Barneys are welcome to take measurements before returning them (because you know the sizing is going to be off). Manufacturing allowances should be made for slight variance between measured sizes.
From @pendulum
308 mm (12 1/8 inches 8UK Hallam purchsed from UK)
From @wes bourne
308 mm (12 1/8 inches 8UK purchased from UK C&J Westbourne)
From @jssdc
12.5 inches heel to toe for UK purchased 348s for 9UK.
From Fred G. Unn
12 3/8 inches heel to toe for UK purchased 348s for 9UK
From @Churchill W
C&J Drummond UK 8.5E bought from Burlington Arcade store in London:
Length: 12 7/16" or 316mm
Width: 4 3/16" or 107mm
Insole marking: 8.5/5
Others from Fred:
If you're collating data, here are some measurements from shoes I've previously owned but have now sold (most to people here). I no longer have them so I can't double check measurements, but this is what I put in the listings [note not 348s].
Malton - Barney's version, US10D, 12 1/2" x 4 3/8"
Clifford - Barney's version, US10D, 12 3/8" x 4 1/4"
Winchester - C&J for Shipton & Heneage, UK9, 12 1/8" x 4 1/4"
Coniston - BB Black Fleece version, US10D, 12 3/8" x 4 1/4"
Dainite soles might increase the size of sole measurement. E.g. from @ Zippyh
A size 10US measures 12.75 inches. They're suede George style boots.
A size 10.5US measures 12.875 inches. They're suede Tetburys.
Both are on dainite soles. They also both fit pretty much the same.
Mine which are Barneys sold 9D (presumably US) are 12.25 inch heel to toe. Marked 9/4 in the footbed.
On internal footbed markings, there’s a slight difference in opinion.
Some (most) think that it is the uk size and width, so 9/4 is US 10/narrow (C?); 9/5 would be US 10D.
Others think that it is marked for the market. I will update as needed if more data comes in.
With hopes that this will help folks in the thread for future reference (especially when buying from Barneys). These are heel to toe measurements. Certainly, folks buying from Barneys are welcome to take measurements before returning them (because you know the sizing is going to be off). Manufacturing allowances should be made for slight variance between measured sizes.
From @pendulum
308 mm (12 1/8 inches 8UK Hallam purchsed from UK)
From @wes bourne
308 mm (12 1/8 inches 8UK purchased from UK C&J Westbourne)
From @jssdc
12.5 inches heel to toe for UK purchased 348s for 9UK.
From Fred G. Unn
12 3/8 inches heel to toe for UK purchased 348s for 9UK
From @Churchill W
C&J Drummond UK 8.5E bought from Burlington Arcade store in London:
Length: 12 7/16" or 316mm
Width: 4 3/16" or 107mm
Insole marking: 8.5/5
Others from Fred:
If you're collating data, here are some measurements from shoes I've previously owned but have now sold (most to people here). I no longer have them so I can't double check measurements, but this is what I put in the listings [note not 348s].
Malton - Barney's version, US10D, 12 1/2" x 4 3/8"
Clifford - Barney's version, US10D, 12 3/8" x 4 1/4"
Winchester - C&J for Shipton & Heneage, UK9, 12 1/8" x 4 1/4"
Coniston - BB Black Fleece version, US10D, 12 3/8" x 4 1/4"
Dainite soles might increase the size of sole measurement. E.g. from @ Zippyh
A size 10US measures 12.75 inches. They're suede George style boots.
A size 10.5US measures 12.875 inches. They're suede Tetburys.
Both are on dainite soles. They also both fit pretty much the same.
Mine which are Barneys sold 9D (presumably US) are 12.25 inch heel to toe. Marked 9/4 in the footbed.
On internal footbed markings, there’s a slight difference in opinion.
Some (most) think that it is the uk size and width, so 9/4 is US 10/narrow (C?); 9/5 would be US 10D.
Others think that it is marked for the market. I will update as needed if more data comes in.
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