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Non-boot-tuck photos may have sold me on these for sure.
but I just have a feeling they wouldn't work on my body or necessarily with the other stuff I wear.
Also there's no Black Friday deal so I'll probably see if I can find a stand-in at walmart
More to the point, are you ordering a pair?
edit:
guess I could always do this...
Didn't like anything enough from today's sales so I went with snowpant deposit!