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Need Opinion on Length

johnnyhooks

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Originally Posted by bringusingoodale
I think the Thick as Thieves aesthetic is more geared toward slimmer chest sizes or slimmer guys in general. The max chest size they accommodate is 42 I think. Many on here disapprove of their too short jacket lenght and too skinny lapels.

Wow, after looking at their website it looks almost as if they do not go above a 40.
 

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Originally Posted by johnnyhooks
Unfortunately, being a 41" on the dot and 5'8", it's not the easiest to find off the rack suits. Usually Canali fits me best but can be a little boxy at times.

Curious, but what does that have to do with being able to or not able to find an OTR suit that fits you generally well? No one can possibly expect perfection from a ready made garment, but they are not horrendous if you find a brand with a cut similar to your body type and in the right length. 5'8" is bordering on short, you can just buy regulars and lop an inch off without throwing off proportions too badly. Or buy a short and be more "modern" as that is the trend these days.

I don't exactly understand the 41" chest problem. There's a huge range of actual chest measurements depending on the maker that you can find a chest size to your liking. And if not, it's not like the chest is impossible to alter.
 

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Just buy shorts.

I'm 5'9, and have found that a short in almost every brand looks better on me than a regular. (The very trendy brands can run a little too short for me).

At 5'8, it's probably not even close. I have no idea why you thought you could wear a long! My guess is that you're probably a 40S.
 

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Originally Posted by zerostyle
Just buy shorts.

I'm 5'9, and have found that a short in almost every brand looks better on me than a regular. (The very trendy brands can run a little too short for me).

At 5'8, it's probably not even close. I have no idea why you thought you could wear a long! My guess is that you're probably a 40S.


I am a 41R/S in US and a 52R/C euro depending on the cut. While shoulders usually fit into a 50, the problem lies in the armholes being too tight and the overall jacket not fitting due to my posture/body type as some of the more seasoned SF'ers have noticed on this thread and others.

I have to agree that the shorts are the way to go. The reason I was trying on the long is because it was a navy sports jacket with great fabric at great price and was wondering if I could shorten it. I knew it was too long off the bat, but didn;t realize that shortening it would drastically throw off the balance.
 

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Curious, but what does that have to do with being able to or not able to find an OTR suit that fits you generally well? No one can possibly expect perfection from a ready made garment, but they are not horrendous if you find a brand with a cut similar to your body type and in the right length.
I appreciate your curiosity. I left out that I am an athletic cut and not built like a straight line. The issue is with posture, height, and body type. It has to do with the fact that while my shoulders can usually fit in a 50, the armholes are tight and I have to go to a 52 which can sometimes end up being a little too big around the body and chest. No one said they were expecting perfection, and I stated that Canali fits me the best; although, it's nice to try other brands sometimes.


5'8" is bordering on short, you can just buy regulars and lop an inch off without throwing off proportions too badly. Or buy a short and be more "modern" as that is the trend these days.
I agree with your approach. For some reason I thought I could shorten this long but didn;t realize how terrible the balance would be thrown off.

I don't exactly understand the 41" chest problem. There's a huge range of actual chest measurements depending on the maker that you can find a chest size to your liking. And if not, it's not like the chest is impossible to alter
Refer to the top of this reply. Additionally, we are not discussing impossible vs. possible.
 

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Well, that is the first time I have ever heard someone on SF complain about tight arm holes. I now understand the like for Canali as they have horrendously low arm holes in my opinion, but objectively speaking, they are larger than other high end suiting such as Oxxford. Brooks Brothers has arm holes just as large.

I am afraid, I don't think I can help you much further. While I am a mesomorph as well, and about 2" shorter than you, I am not after the low arm holes. My search is for higher arm holes. I am afraid we are diametrically opposed in what we are after.
 

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Well, that is the first time I have ever heard someone on SF complain about tight arm holes. I now understand the like for Canali as they have horrendously low arm holes in my opinion, but objectively speaking, they are larger than other high end suiting such as Oxxford. Brooks Brothers has arm holes just as large.

I am afraid, I don't think I can help you much further. While I am a mesomorph as well, and about 2" shorter than you, I am not after the low arm holes. My search is for higher arm holes. I am afraid we are diametrically opposed in what we are after.
There is a difference between high arm holes and tight armholes. I stated that with a 50 in the armholes are usually too tight, which causes my arm movement to be restricted and is why I go to a 52. AGain, the issue is with size, not armhole location. Personally, I enjoy HIGH armholes which aren't supposed to be tight if the jacket fits.

Again, this all circles back to why I am going to be looking into MTM.
 

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Originally Posted by phxlawstudent
So, the arm holes in the other brands are tight horizontally, but not tight vertically?


I was trying to figure out your modus operandi but realized I've been wasting enough time replying to your critical comments which, on numerous occasions, are condescending in nature and devoid of any value whatsoever. Not sure if you enjoy these types of conversations, because I don't, or you truly are sincere in your questioning. I'm just letting you know the way you come off whether you care or not.

The arm holes are tight IN GENERAL in a size 50. But to answer your question more specifically, YES, the armholes are usually tight horizontally because of my build. Again, this relates to the size. Armholes are modified ovals, as you know, so it is an issue of circumference, not location.

Do me a favor, while we all have the right to post and reply, try to save your arguments for class.
 

johnnyhooks

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Originally Posted by phxlawstudent
Lol, go pump more 'roids. Your arms are clearly not big enough.
An expected comment from a self conscious individual that lacks the drive to follow a weight lifting regiment.
 

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