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See my black cxl Ottawa posted earlier today. Some brown showing up in higher "wear" area's, but not much. They are still pretty black and have LOTS of miles on them.New to Grant stone boots and I have been absolutely loving my black chromexcel diesel boots. I was wondering does Grant stones black chromexcel wear in to show brown undertones underneath similar to a tea core leather?
Really nice, that should develop some great patterns. The CFS waxy commander is a great, fun leather. I have it on my Taft Dragon originals in London Fog. It takes a beating (and looks like it, lol) and shows great character. Waiting on EEE...This is only after a day and half.
Always love it when you are able to nerd out and share these kind of details!It's pretty tough to compare these two because they are on opposite sides of the spectrum. CXL is tanned using animal hides that are almost 40SF while these Italian calf are closer to 12SF. It's roughly half the thickness as well.
The CXL has a casual look because it scuffs and patinas easily and shows extreme highs and lows from all of the wax and oils.
Wear - CXL has a soft, elastic feeling from the looser fiber structure. The break can be good or have heavy, pronounced creasing. The upside is, the article is so soft and has the touted hot-stuffed tannage so there is a lot to look at and it's resilient given the nature of the animal.
The Italian calf has a tight grain but has more give than our French Calf. It's also vegetable-tanned and has a lot of wax so the finish has a nice sheen to it out of the box. Due to the lighter weight, it doesn't feel as 'boardy' as some other calf.
Patina - In my experience, it patinas better than any other calf we've used. This article has a downside for makers/factories. It's very transparent. You can see growth marks on the base of the leather that would usually not be visible. Most chrome tannages on better grade calf tend to cover most of the minor lines on the hide whereas this article shows a lot of this. The tannery deals with this feedback on a regular basis because it's a pain to cut. All of that being said, the transparency makes for beautiful leather. It has a natural depth that reminds me of shell, the exact opposite of a corrected leather. Some don't like any natural marks like this, just a personal preference. Here is a photo of the tobacco tassel in direct sunlight in an effort to highlight some of these marks. Of course in real-life situations, they won't be this blatant.
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Water resistance - I would think CXL would perform better here if really put to the test as the tannery considers CXL as water resistant and some versions waterproof. That being said, a waterproof upper on a GYW shoe won't do much anyway because the water will come right through the upper stitching and welt inseam. This Italian calf will do just fine though on your average rainy days. As with any leather and especially veg-tanned, we would suggest letting them dry naturally and avoid heat.
Hope this helps!
Yes, I agree.Interesting difference. Everyone is different.
As for forcibly flexing I do the same now. Initially I was worried about wrecking my shoes, but it hasn't happened yet. Helps a lot with break in. I do that for the soles as well as heel counters. The Fairfield is the only pair I have where the heel counters have still felt a bit annoying after several wears, but they seem to be getting better. I know eventually it'll get to where my other Grant Stone shoes are with comfort.
"how GS gets leather that stiff." Tough Cows who work out and are sturdy, not those namby-pamby cows on the milk commercials on TV.Yes, I agree.
I was a bit skittish and then I decided to really lay into them I hear some stuff creaking and I could feel the shank. I honestly have no idea how GS gets leather that stiff.
The Loden suede pre order should be in at the end of this month. We will be sending an update by email shortly!Awesome. I'd purchase those within seconds of being posted on the site. Any updates on the loden Edwards?
Welcome! If you wear through the grain on this Black CXL, it will have a tan base. However, that would have to be some very heavy wear and it's not common, unlike a teacore leather which fades much quicker and more evenly.New to Grant stone boots and I have been absolutely loving my black chromexcel diesel boots. I was wondering does Grant stones black chromexcel wear in to show brown undertones underneath similar to a tea core leather?
We will be getting into EEE next year in at least one of the waxy commander leathers, although nothing is finalized just yet.Any plans for EEE in this leather?
Great Ottawa boots, and I have never had a "break in" issue with GS, other than really, really stiff leather soles, which isn't a terrible issue.