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Epaulet x Carmina MTO

Discussion in 'Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o' started by NAMOR, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. BootSpell

    BootSpell Senior member

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    Mike, two questions:

    1. The WWII Scotchgrain mto boots on the Oscar last will be my first Carminas. I really like the looks of the Oscar over the Forest (at least based on the web images) and I'm expecting the Oscar last to fit me very well. So my question is whether all future Kudu jumper boot mto's will be on the Forest last or will there be another one on the Oscar? (Those Kudu boots are just incredible and regret I was not able to join the mto with the Oscar last.)

    2. I had ordered the Carmina trees for the WWII mto boots rather than the EP trees. Regarding your comments above regarding cessation of offering Carmina trees, does that apply to this last WWII mto as well?

    Thanks.
     
  2. MSchapiro

    MSchapiro Senior member

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    Just pre-ordered Kudu. I went with wide since I don't think I want to wear it with dress socks like my other forest lasted shoes (although in shell, which I know makes up slightly wider). Any comment from Epaulet as to if maybe I should have went with my traditional size?

    In regards to the comment above, would have also preferred Oscar, but forest is hopefully fine.
     
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  3. Epaulet

    Epaulet Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Yes, those Double Monks are mine, but they're VASS, not Carmina. I'm going to set up a group buy for them tonight.

    But I hear you guys on the Museum Calf. At the moment it's not in Carmina's lineup of leathers, but maybe we can get them to use it. I can actually purchase the skin direct from the supplier and send it to them for cutting. It will probably take a bit, but that's definitely on my list. Museum calf boots are amazing, and Carmina would do a brilliant job with them. Boots are a tough thing for VASS, hence the much higher price of them compared to shoes.


    Thanks! I can't wait to see how the WWII boots made out. They should be coming with our next delivery. And you'll absolutely have the Carmina trees with them if your ordered as such.

    I don't want to stress anyone about the trees - we have some in stock now and we've got them on order for everyone who has purchased them. We've had a rash of broken ones, but they arrive broken in the shipment from Spain. I haven't had any complaints of our customers receiving broken trees / having trees break with use. We're sorting through all of them and weeding out the bad apples. We ultimately decided to stop buying them because it's just too problematic. We're generally short-shipped on every order AND a few are broken, so customers who order them occasionally won't receive them. Woodlore trees are great and work just as well in the shoes (Carmina trees are just whole-sized, not lasted). They're inexpensive and we can include them while still offering a great price.



    I wouldn't say that you need a Wide fitting just to wear them with normal socks. With heavy wool boots socks, yes.

    Let me know what you guys would prefer. I had a few people ask about a Forest-last reorder to get a wide fitting, but if the majority of guys want to get the boots in the Oscar Last, then we can switch the order over to that. No problemo. The end product really isn't all that different though if it's on one last or the other.
     
  4. MSchapiro

    MSchapiro Senior member

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    Does the Kudu make up a little thinner than shell? I would prefer Oscar.
     
  5. rydenfan

    rydenfan Senior member

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    Mike,

    Sorry to sound like a broken record, but are we still going for a shell chukka? I know there has been quite a bit of interest over the last few months. I would love to see a lighter makeup in saddle shell but am open to cognac as well.
     
  6. booyaolian

    booyaolian Active Member

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    Is MTO extra? Because I want to buy http://www.fototime.com/684A91920829802/orig.jpg
    Wholecut Rain Last Brogue in Navy shell cordovan. Basically the style in middle with the color on the right.

    How much is that gonna cost me? Is it available to buy?
     
  7. booyaolian

    booyaolian Active Member

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    wtf nm...
     
  8. booyaolian

    booyaolian Active Member

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    I got Betty's response about sizing. If you are a D go for Simpson.


    Unfortunately MTO is out of my price range, $651 euro exclude VAT and $50 euro shipping.
    I am wondering if there's an interest on

    Last: Simpson

    leather: Navy Shell Cordovan

    style:
    Slick Oxford

    captoe - http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/wp-c...18/GhYc9FtpWmY/s640/small_STC-10808-Pose1.jpg

    or

    Wholecut with brogue - http://www.fototime.com/684A91920829802/orig.jpg (the shoe in the middle)

    Not sure how many people we need for price to be around $500-600 USD, if that's even possible.
     
  9. Joshua Lee

    Joshua Lee Senior member

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    The navy shell wholecut is available from their online store for 525€ ($708), plus they're currently offering free worldwide shipping. The downside is you might get hit with importing fees, so leatherfoot might be a better option for $850. I don't think you're gonna find a cheaper offering than what's readily available.
     
  10. booyaolian

    booyaolian Active Member

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    Actually there's no VAT fee in US so the price is actually 433€, which is within my price range. However, it's rain last and they are out of my size.
    Please join my thread here if you are interested in owning a pair of Navy Shell Oxford http://www.styleforum.net/t/365693/carmina-group-mto-interest-check
     
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  11. stmaier

    stmaier Senior member

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    pics always seems to get people going...this jumper

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    but in this darker hand burnished scotchgrain

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  12. plato

    plato Senior member

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    It's not quite the same sort of made to order as is usually discussed in this thread, but I recently put in a special order from Epaulet for a pair of these:

    more info after the (sorry for the backyard, sunwashed, non-pro, phone-)pics...
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    There's a bit of a story to the process by which I got these. After some disappointing results in the effort to find my size in Alden's shoeware, I eventually learned that I have rather small feet, so, when I wanted to order my first pair of carmina shoes, Epaulet was a great choice, because they allowed me to put in a special order ahead of time for a pair of their hawthorne suede loafers in UK 6.5 (here). By joining my special order to their regular production cycle, an order they were going to submit to carmina anyway, I was able to avoid special order fees, but it did involve a bit of a wait.

    The order was taken, with the nice help of Matt (leftofthedial) to dial in my size, in the spring, with an estimated delivery date of june-july. That time rolled around, but I didn't hear anything. When I dropped a line to Epaulet, they responded, both times, in a timely manner with the best info they had about carmina's production and delivery schedule. When one particular delivery came in, and the shoes were expected to arrive, I was notified that Epaulet thought that a whole box of their shoes had disappeared in customs in Spain. As compensation, they offered to let me keep my deposit as a store credit to use it on whatever else with a bit of a discount, which I thought was a stand-up way of dealing with an issue out of the store's control.

    A month or more later I was still thinking about what to do with my store credit when, out of the blue, the guys at epaulet dropped me a line to say the shoes were in and would ship as soon as I paid the balance. And here they are.

    Don't think I could be more pleased with them. The quality of the materials seems great (though these are my first pair of nice suede shoes, so I'm not an expert), and the level of finishing is superb. I couldn't find a stitch out of place, a loose thread end, or a rough edge anywhere on the pair. The fit seems good too, snug without being tight and no heel slip. I couldn't remember whether Matt originally mentioned it or not (he probably did and I forgot), but it was a great surprise when the loafers arrived with the color of edge trim that they have, instead of the darker trim on the older model pictured on Epaulet's website.

    All the way through the process there was great service from the team at Epaulet, and the end product looks great so far. Picked up some nanoprotector from Epaulet too and applied it today. The shoes should be worn out of the house for the first time on sunday. Am really looking forward to it. My thanks to Epaulet.
     
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  13. scb

    scb Senior member

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    sorry to be a pain, but any update on the hatch grain jumpers? Did Carmina get back to you guys?
     
  14. hanoiboy

    hanoiboy Senior member

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    Any update on the navy jumper GMTO?
     
  15. stmaier

    stmaier Senior member

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    Per Mike's last note they are working on getting a global status update from Carmina on everything that is outstanding. I believe this is probably about 8-10 different projects so it is going to take a bit. There is a sizable delivery slated toward the end of October. I am sure once the crew gets an update from the factory they will post it here.
     
  16. OIx

    OIx Well-Known Member

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    I second these... but original colour also looks great...
     
  17. beez

    beez Senior member

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    I like the original color as well.
     
  18. rydenfan

    rydenfan Senior member

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    Mike,

    I saw in another thread that Carmina orders in cognac shell are on hold due to a shortage of shell from Horween. You heard anything?
     
  19. FrankCowperwood

    FrankCowperwood Senior member

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    Is there a current status on the WWII boot in the hand-burnished scotch grain? I take it that this is still waiting to go into production.
     
  20. etostano

    etostano Senior member

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    Also, any status update on the chocolate suede/calf jodhpur?

    Thanks
     
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