this may well be my next bed - thanks for the links. just moved somewhere much bigger - and in a typical matt wheelin-n-dealin-goes wrong, find myself having to furniture-up pretty fast. I think I can get some dude on a street corner with an oxywelder to make this for me in an hour I love it when I quote me. Tis done. Was a bunch of fun. Went to some steel dude, bought about 16 meters of L shaped steel, chopped into lengths. Cost - $25 Took it to some streetside welder dude who normally repairs holes in motorbike mufflers. Took some convincing, but he agreed to make it and paint it. Cost $12. Done! Painting needs a little touch up from the transporting, and need some slats made up (bought the wood already...eight whole dollars there) and we are there. I love this place sometimes.