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Cheapest place for C&Js?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Brian278, Dec 20, 2011.

  1. Brian278

    Brian278 Well-Known Member

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    My apologies if this has been discussed recently, a few searches didn't turn up any definitive answer. I'm looking to pick up a pair of handgrade line and was curious where the current lowest price was to have to shipped to the U.S.--is it still PLAL? Pediwear? Is there some other source where they can be had for less than $475? Any SF discounts out there?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    $475 sounds like pre 2008 pricing... It's closer to $700 at the current rates. Inflation FTW.
     
  3. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Well-Known Member

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    handgrades are about $600 at bodileys in northhampton
     
  4. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    w/o trees.
     
  5. dandie

    dandie Well-Known Member

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    good news for y'all

    I'm pretty sure the prices direct from C&J will not be routinely bettered anywhere else online, other than if there is a retailer who is having a sale of old stock. I am quite sure that the availability and service direct from C&J will not be bettered. Demand is too high for them to logically allow the product to be shifted in volume through other channels at lower prices.

    For example the Weymouth which appears to be shoe of the hour, is priced as follows:

    C&J - £425
    Bodileys - £468
    WeSellShoes.com - £425
    Pediwear - £425
    Barneys $760


    Note that for Mexicans, Canadans, and those from all points in between, the C&J prices are including VAT and excluding shipping. For example, the example above is £425 less the 20%VAT + £30 shipping = GBP384/USD599

    ie less than I would pay in the UK store, and even more less if you are shipping more than one pair at at time.

    Full current price list copied below for reference.

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  6. Gerry Nelson

    Gerry Nelson Well-Known Member

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    P Lal is not getting any new C&J's in. When their current stock is gone, that's it. Great pricing if they have your size and style.
     
  7. Liquidus

    Liquidus Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the post. This confirmed what I thought.
     
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    Pediwear etc. only beat C&J themselves on postage costs.

    However C&J will always have better stock levels than other retailers.
     
  9. aj_del

    aj_del Well-Known Member

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    CJ handgrades are almost at Vass levels.

    599 + tress vs 725 for Vass incl trees

    Ascot shoes has listed some new Vass for 495 GBP and if you email him directly is offering them at 379 GBP (ex VAT) without trees plus shipping. For US delivery, they should cost aroud 410 GBP vs 384 GBP for CJ HGs.
     
  10. chogall

    chogall Well-Known Member

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    They carries mostly U last for Vass and other lasts are MTO.
     
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    Interesting, the handgrades direct from C&J include trees but those bought at the stores do not? (I know the NYC store didn't offer them with the shoes...)
     
  12. Liquidus

    Liquidus Well-Known Member

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    If you're referring to what aj_del said, he means that C&J does NOT include trees.
     
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  13. swiego

    swiego Well-Known Member

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    Got it, I misunderstood.
     
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    isn't it cheaper to buy directly vom vass? w/o trees is an useless transaction, imo

    transferred it to the vass thread...
     
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  15. aj_del

    aj_del Well-Known Member

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    I was trying to compare apples to apples

    For a US customer, as a member mentioned, HGs cost 599. I assume that trees are extra since I have never seen trees included in CJ prices. In comparison to HG's 599 plus trees, you can get MTO Vass (which includes lasted trees) for 700 plus paypal fees

    Regarding Asot Shoes, he has listed some new Vass on F last for 495 GBP which is around 100 GBP less than what used to list them at. Plus he can give VAT refund of 20% on the new VAss. I corresponded with for his best price and he quoted 379 GBP plus trees plus shipping. In this case, I assumed around 30 GBP shipping, so 410 total without trees. In comparison, HGs would cost 384 GBP (as mentioned by a member) and to my knowledge the HGs are also without trees.

    BTW, Ascot claims to be able to supply shoe trees for Vass.

    Solid wood U-LASTED shoe trees are extra at £39.95 + Shipping

    I am sounding like Ascot Shoe's spokesperson, but I dont hold his brief. I bought a G&G from him on ebay and it couldnt go through as he was not able to deduct VAT on that and he asked for 76 GBP shipping to India. I declined.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that most shoe-trees sold by any shoe-maker are the same last. What I mean by that is that if you buy two C&J shoes on different lasts, the shoe trees are the same, not specific to the last.

    I never buy trees from C&J, but instead from Bexley - they are significantly cheaper (14.75 Euros) and of better quality (Cedar 3 piece rather than 2) than the C&J ones IMHO.


     
  17. Brian278

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    So to get back to discussing C&J pricing...if I'm reading this all correctly then PLAL is still the cheapest at $475-500 depending on currency exchange movements IF they have your size/style in stock, which is growing scarcer, otherwise, Pediwear and C&J direct are about the same. Damn, I remember when the handgrade line was a little over $400. Not ready to start spending $6-700 on C&Js or Vass, unfortunately, so I guess I'll start looking into lines in the $250-400 range.

    Can anyone recommend something comparable to the 337 last (softer chisel toe, not too elongated), and at least benchgrade quality? I have a pair of C&J benchgrade on the 348 last and I'm OK with the quality at that price point but I'm not a fan of the shape any more. Grenson, perhaps?
     
  18. Liquidus

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    I'm looking for the same thing you are. Maybe Grenson when the A1 line comes out. Have you tried the C&J 341 last?
     
  19. Brian278

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    Don't like the shape as much as the 337, which has more definition in the toe. Some perusing of Pediwear's site has identified the Grenson 96 last and Tricker's 4537 last as potential approximations, though not quite as elegant from the angles I've seen as the 337, both are cheaper than the C&J handgrade line.
     

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