Thrift Vader
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I hate it.
It's like "B is for Build" bought a new car.
It's like "B is for Build" bought a new car.
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I might have to come find you when I drive home to my parents in PA in the miata next time. Would be cool to see what you think of a car that came with 110 rwhp when it's pushing closer to 330
So do you guys like the styling? Personally I think I’d need to go straight to the aftermarket and make it look more like the GR concept. Maybe a less crazy wing and rear diffuser
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I’m not a fan of the current liberty walk trend of ‘wb all the things’ but this Supra is crying out to make someone make it look more over the top...
By the way any option for no drill front license plate... (not the off center mount ugly solution...)
Regarding the "Fupra", Toyota missed the boat. they have a perfectly rapid v6 in the "Crown Athlete" saloons. which is what the Highway patrol here drives. (-or a Legacy.) Those Crowns will chase you down. so why wouldn't they use the engine?
or a revision of the JZ platform? wtf??!!
They failed with the 86 ,they failed now with the Supra. . . what are they doing?
btw, Mk3 Supra fo life.
Subaru failed with the whole range, going to an engine with doubts about the valvetrain,and made their cars so bloated and uninspiring,that you can't really be sure what you are looking at unless you read the badges. just why? stop it.
Mrs Vader wants an XV. but we will probably just buy the lowest kilometer Sg5 Forester turbo in the country instead.
or put 10k into the current Fozzy. (207 block,suspension refresh,paint correction,etc)
Mitsubishi has completely removed itself from the conversation.
Props to Nissan. for giving us the GTR. the only Japanese street racer still in the game. and the Z cars. they keep it legit.
Honda?
I never liked the NSX. (not sorry) because it tried to be a Japanese Ferrari. why would you even want to?
Looking forward to what Mazda is up to.
but in short. The car industry has shot itself in the foot.and *********** aftermarket. if anything? it has driven up the prices of pretty much every pre 2013 performance car. raising the stocks of the JDM staples. i wouldn't be surprised to see 90's JDM take over the classic car scene for big dollars and desirability. if it hasn't already.
also,
The 300zx was and is a GT car. it's main rival being the Toyota Soarer/Sc300-400. i love both of them.
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By the way any option for no drill front license plate... (not the off center mount ugly solution...)
Different cars mean different things to different generations. Yes, I remember Senna's involvement, but it didn't make me dream of owning one.
I'm also not exactly of the same mind with Foo on the new NSX in large part because I think that these high end sports cars are selling a fairy tale. I don't disagree that from a pure performance standpoint the NSX could be seen as a fail (although not as much as the i8 which I have harped on more than enough times in this thread). There are just so many conflicting factors - manual vs automatic, powertrain tractability and flexibility, etc. - that impact the analysis but seem to be left out depending on what the proponent is trying to achieve. For example, I would be surprised if Foo could hustle his manual GT3 around a track faster than he could a new NSX. I would be shocked if the difference in performance between the GT3 and NSX would be noticeable on the street. The main difference between the cars is in feel; the performance envelope difference for most drives is about as meaningful as the difference in depth ratings between the Rolex sub and seadweller. The nurburgring times are also apples to oranges because as far as I can tell he is quoting the official time for a new GT3 (which is like 13 seconds faster than the PDK GT3 that was available at the time the new NSX came out) against an unofficial NSX time. I don't believe there is an official ring time for the new NSX but happy to be proven wrong.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the GT3 (and RS) aren't far superior cars for track rats than the NSX, that isn't in doubt. I think the fact that Porsche sells so many GT3s to people who aren't track rats proves that it's a bit silly to discuss ultimate performance as if it would be meaningful to the way the cars are used by their drivers. In large part it's symbolic.
It’s all e-pissing contests. Only 1% of these jackasses arguing Nurburgring times have even driven on the Nordschleife.
The big issue with ‘Ring times is that it pushes automakers to maximize their performance on that metric, and to make trade offs we might not want them to make. It’s all good when you’ve got GT3 RS duking it out with Huracan Performantes, because those are singular purpose cars...but when you’ve got dual track/street use cars like Giulia QF’s, M3’s and C63’s going after the same bragging rights...you end up with a complete package that is shittier overall