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Cars We Drive!

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Bert1568, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. clee1982

    clee1982 Stylish Dinosaur

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    i8 looks awesome though and that’s something actually resembled concept car and still look futuristic despite more than 6, 7 years since the concept car came out?
     

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    The 300ZX Twin Turbo was a nice car...and certainly had a lot more new technology than the outgoing 944 Turbo. However, it was considerably heavier...about 480 lbs. The way a car handles and feels in corners is different when it is significantly heavier. Still, the 300ZX was quite a bargain considering its performance and that it cost significantly less than a 1989 944 Turbo or an NSX.

    As for lap times, unless someone is Walter Rohrl, the times are mostly academic. Maybe a bit of my car can beat up your car. Most normal buyers/drivers don't have the training and experience on the track to really drive cars to their limits without potentially ending up on youtube video for wrecking their cars. In the end, some cars are more fun and enjoyable to drive than others, and that is what matters more to me than lap times.
     

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    HRoi Stylish Dinosaur

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    It’s all e-pissing contests. Only 1% of these jackasses arguing Nurburgring times have even driven on the Nordschleife.

    The big issue with ‘Ring times is that it pushes automakers to maximize their performance on that metric, and to make trade offs we might not want them to make. It’s all good when you’ve got GT3 RS duking it out with Huracan Performantes, because those are singular purpose cars...but when you’ve got dual track/street use cars like Giulia QF’s, M3’s and C63’s going after the same bragging rights...you end up with a complete package that is shittier overall
     

  4. clee1982

    clee1982 Stylish Dinosaur

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    Too firm of a ride... yea
     

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    The OG NSX was one of the benchmark cars for Gordon Murray when he designed the McLaren F1 road car. We know how that turned out.

    Also besides the VW ID R's Pikes Peak record, the world record for the Nordschleife (and Spa) is held by the Porsche 919, which is a hybrid electric car. There is no question that electric drive is going to be faster than ICE alone.
     

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    ridethecliche Stylish Dinosaur

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    I think the ZX had a bunch of reliability issues too.

    Wasn't the 3000GT a pretty incredible car for its time too? I recall that it had rear steering as well.
     

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    I am on my third set of P Zero inside 18K miles. Don't ask about the pads and rotors. 5800 lb, 580 hp minivan alternative. Buy stupid cars, pay stupid prices.
     

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    I can speak as a matter of fact here that if given the option, I would gladly choose to drive on a tight mountain road then any racetrack in the world. I just find it more exhilarating. And I’ve tracked the Ferrari 458, 599’s and Scuderia’s during a couple of dealership track events. Saying that, I would gladly pick the former. In fact I got to do just that in the Ferrari 1987 328 GTS last year in the back roads of a quarry. No shoulder just a guardrail on either side, rev matching my downshifts, clipping the apex’s and exiting with precision. Man it made me feel alive. Didn’t even look at the speedo
     

  9. ridethecliche

    ridethecliche Stylish Dinosaur

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    I might have to come find you when I drive home to my parents in PA in the miata next time. Would be cool to see what you think of a car that came with 110 rwhp when it's pushing closer to 330 ;)
     

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    I don't understand how the japanese have bastardized so many of their prestigious cars over the years. Obviously I loved exotics as a kid but I also loved hondas for their humble yet appealing design language. Then there was the nsx, rx-7, supra, skyline and have fucked all of them save the skyline the least. These guys started doing acid in the late 90s or some shit because all of their design have been garbage since. Look at modern lexus and nissans, pure trash. Camrys have fake vented bumpers on them now wtf? The irony is that japanese are conservative by nature yet perhaps not in auto design any longer I don't know. I love everything about japanese culture except what they're cranking out these days. You're telling me there's no way to make a proper modern iteration design wise of a supra? Or an rx-7? Or an nsx? Look at the old datsun 280zs these are cult cars in LA along with old 510s and shit i used to see at the track. I saw a duckbill rx-7 yesterday that just plain looked good and better than anything else on the road next to it.

    They carved their own niche in what the 80s and 90s yet managed to fuck everything all up. My brother's friend took me for a ride in his girlfriends new nsx at the time and I marveled at the mid engine noise that was seemingly being emitted from the rear speakers. No, that was the engine right. fucking. behind. me. When another friend took me for a ride in his then new carrera gt it was a nostalgic reminder of my first ride in an nsx. They don't make them like that anymore.
     

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    brokencycle Stylish Dinosaur Moderator

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    This just reminds me of a desire to own a vintage Giulia. Drool.

    Re: Supra

    Who's gonna buy a rebadged BMW when the Bavarians have a bigger brand cache?
     

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    HRoi Stylish Dinosaur

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    So do you guys like the styling? Personally I think I’d need to go straight to the aftermarket and make it look more like the GR concept. Maybe a less crazy wing and rear diffuser

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    I’m not a fan of the current liberty walk trend of ‘wb all the things’ but this Supra is crying out to make someone make it look more over the top...
     

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    Thrift Vader Forum Mechanic

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    I hate it.

    It's like "B is for Build" bought a new car.
     
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