Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc...) - official thread.

[jischwar]

Quick question:

Have others used Saphir Renovateur on Carmina's black box calf as a conditioner? I'm about to order some but want to make sure it's not going to damage that particular leather.

Box calf is probably fine, but I'd recommend Bick 4 over it. Do not, I repeat, do not use it on their vegano (crust) leather. I did it on one pair and it completely stripped the color

 

[Spaghettimatt]

Box calf is probably fine, but I'd recommend Bick 4 over it. Do not, I repeat, do not use it on their vegano (crust) leather. I did it on one pair and it completely stripped the color

Noted. I’ll probably just go with Bick 4 to be safe.

What the hell do people even use Reno for?

 

[jischwar]

Noted. I’ll probably just go with Bick 4 to be safe.

What the hell do people even use Reno for?

I always thought it was for aniline dyed leather when you wanted to clean them up from a build up of polish etc.

 

[Iloveshoes19009]

Noted. I’ll probably just go with Bick 4 to be safe.

What the hell do people even use Reno for?

I use reno on my black box calf and my vegano brown shoes. The only ones i use bick 4 on are my museum shoes.

From my experience though, hand painted shoes are very easy to strip and while other shoes arent easy to strip the dye it may happen if you use it too aggressively. For example, i use it on all my shoes but i did slightly strip one pair of brown c&j. But it only happen when i was using it very aggressively, when i stopped being so rough it stopped stripping

 

[PGS]

I always thought it was for aniline dyed leather when you wanted to clean them up from a build up of polish etc.

That's Renomat, no? Renovateur is the conditioner. I've used Renovateur without issue on pretty much every leather, though I've avoided it on shoes that have had a patina applied.

 

[jischwar]

That's Renomat, no? Renovateur is the conditioner. I've used Renovateur without issue on pretty much every leather, though I've avoided it on shoes that have had a patina applied.

I thought Renomat was more used to prepare a shoe to be re-dyed. Like strips absolutely everything not just polish/wax

 

[PGS]

I thought Renomat was more used to prepare a shoe to be re-dyed. Like strips absolutely everything not just polish/wax

That sounds more like Decapant, which I've never used. I've used Renomat a few times and it didn't strip the original color.

 

[jischwar]

That sounds more like Decapant, which I've never used. I've used Renomat a few times and it didn't strip the original color.

Oh interesting

 

[Iloveshoes19009]

Renomat is used to remove built up wax, however it does have very strong stripping agents so if you arent careful you will strip the dye as well

 

[iva80]

Box calf is probably fine, but I'd recommend Bick 4 over it. Do not, I repeat, do not use it on their vegano (crust) leather. I did it on one pair and it completely stripped the color

A similar solution from Collonil (Collonil Leather Cream) did the same thing. They contain solvents. I have spots on my vegano burgundy shoes. Same happened with shoes from another brand built with crust leather, painted at the factory, not the tannery.

Use only your tried and trusted leather conditioner, and try it out on the hidden area of the tongue.
Stripping off a little color can ruin the shoe experience.

 

[jcreadeur]

 

[Iloveshoes19009]

Does anyone wear shell derby boots with dress pants or business casual attire? I'm thinking about a pair and would love some pictures of your outfits with these boots

 

[jischwar]

Does anyone wear shell derby boots with dress pants or business casual attire? I'm thinking about a pair and would love some pictures of your outfits with these boots

All the time my friend. Don't want to spam this forum with other makers pics so PM me if you'd like

 

[dukenukem4ever]

PSA: Bick 4 is better and cheaper than Saphir Renovateur. Follow up with colored cream polish if you want that nice shine but for conditioner, I trust Bick 4.

 

[TheLawBeard]

I've started to come around on Bick 4 over Saphir. I don't like that Saphir can be overly abrasive on the finish- not to mention the smell. I tend to go with bick 4 or pure polish these days. Though I will say Saphir's coloured creams are top notch.