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2017 MLB Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by edinatlanta, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. edinatlanta

    edinatlanta Senior member

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    So I love how the Yankees were hoping for Pettite's return. Oops.

    With the Rays still being an 80+ win team, the Sox having the best team on paper, the Jays being pretty damn good, and the Orioles on the upswing, they are going to STRUGGLE. [​IMG]
     
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    I'm on Jeter watch this year. 3000 hits. I may try and get tickets if he does it in Baltimore.
     
  3. Rambo

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    Prediction - Phillies aren't going to win it all this year. SOMETHING will go wrong.
     
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    vlad the impaler signed by the O's for 8M. sounded expensive at first, but then seeing his production its actually a nice pick up at a great price for the Oriels. They have stars at position players but need to luck out and develop an Ace starter from the minors/draft.


    I wonder if they could trade for Zach Grienke. Seems like they could pull it off and he'd be amendable to play in the maryland market.

    my redsox are strong pitching wise, but pitching is rarely bought sucessfully, its better to develop like they did with Papelbon (who's now iffy), Bucholdz (breakout going on Ace), and Lester (ace).

    it sucks that pettite retired because now the yankees will never let Joba go. Joba could be great if developed properly.
     
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    Prediction - Phillies aren't going to win it all this year. SOMETHING will go wrong.

    Im wondering where the Phillies' bats are supposed to come from.
     
  6. L'Incandescent

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    I wonder if they could trade for Zach Grienke. Seems like they could pull it off and he'd be amendable to play in the maryland market.


    I can't imagine the Brewers trading him away. With him and Gallardo one and two on their staff, they have a legitimate shot at winning the NL Central. (The Brewers are my team, so maybe that's too optimistic. But I'm excited about their chances this year.)
     
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    I can't imagine the Brewers trading him away. With him and Gallardo one and two on their staff, they have a legitimate shot at winning the NL Central. (The Brewers are my team, so maybe that's too optimistic. But I'm excited about their chances this year.)
    true. I was just thinking its a "seattle 2010 situation" in brewer country then the brewers have a ton of assets to trade away before the deadline to get a ton of prospects. that said it would be nice for the brewers to be awesome this year with that excellent 1-2 starting rotation plus the NL central is wide open. here's some scary scenarios: - albert pujos negotiations break down - seattle sucking again (and F. Hernandez gets dangled) - the brewers don't make a playoffs push and dangle any of their young stars (braun, fielder, grenkie, Gallardo). obviously the yankees would be willing to trade the farm for any Ace. The redsox actually have a young pitcher (Clay B.) and prospects to trade for a Pitcher and or Prospects and Ellusbury for a position player. i also think San Fran knows that it can make a push to add another ace and just ride their pitching again by trading using their farm (surprisingly deep).
     
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    The Brew's are going to be MAJOR players on the trade market this year. I bet that pretty much everybody except Braun will be expendable. Fielder will definitely go and I actually think he'll end up in San Fransisco. That's a perfect fit for them.
     
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    I agree, Fielder will almost certainly be leaving. That's a shame, because he's really been the face of the franchise, despite Braun's great performance. Also agree that Braun's not expendable. As for the rest, I hope you're wrong. I think everything's going to depend on the quality of the Brewers' pitching this year. I'm still a bit nervous about three through five.
     
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    I agree, Fielder will almost certainly be leaving. That's a shame, because he's really been the face of the franchise, despite Braun's great performance. Also agree that Braun's not expendable. As for the rest, I hope you're wrong. I think everything's going to depend on the quality of the Brewers' pitching this year. I'm still a bit nervous about three through five.
    They are going to finish in third, like always.
     
  11. edinatlanta

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    it sucks that pettite retired because now the yankees will never let Joba go. Joba could be great if developed properly.

    Joba's a fraud. There are no bad teams in the AL East this year. Three great, one really good team and an Os squad that will be dangerous soon enough.

    I can't imagine the Brewers trading him away. With him and Gallardo one and two on their staff, they have a legitimate shot at winning the NL Central. (The Brewers are my team, so maybe that's too optimistic. But I'm excited about their chances this year.)

    Brewers will be in the thick of things all year.

    stff

    pujols isn't going anywhere.
     
  12. guster

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    I hope you are right.

    FUCK that Yankees thread.

    So I love how the Yankees were hoping for Pettite's return. Oops.

    With the Rays still being an 80+ win team, the Sox having the best team on paper, the Jays being pretty damn good, and the Orioles on the upswing, they are going to STRUGGLE. [​IMG]
     
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    Im wondering where the Phillies' bats are supposed to come from.

    Lalalalala can't hear you lalalalala
     
  14. guster

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    The Brewers woiuld have to be way out of it for the team to trade assets they just got. That division is wide open so I suspect even if the Brewers get off to a slow start, if they are within 10 games at trde deadline, noone gets dealt. Brewers GM subscribes to theory that you need 3 strong starters in playoffs. He has 2 if Grienke head stays in the game. Their bullpen and catching situation will be interesting to watch how it develops.
    Big exception to trade above is Fielder. But how many teams will want to pick up a $15M contract that will expire at season's end. And he has Boras as an agent right? Ouch. That limits him but maybe those playoff bound teams will look at renting him for 6-7M for last few months of season and playoffs.

    Watch Buchholz. His picthing coach is gone and so is his catcher. The guy most credited with his development was down in double A so maybe Farrell didn't have much to do with his success last year. Just don't know if Saltimacchia can handle pitchers. Veritek can but how much will his bat allow him to play. Starting job is Salty's for the taking.

    vlad the impaler signed by the O's for 8M. sounded expensive at first, but then seeing his production its actually a nice pick up at a great price for the Oriels. They have stars at position players but need to luck out and develop an Ace starter from the minors/draft.


    I wonder if they could trade for Zach Grienke. Seems like they could pull it off and he'd be amendable to play in the maryland market.

    my redsox are strong pitching wise, but pitching is rarely bought sucessfully, its better to develop like they did with Papelbon (who's now iffy), Bucholdz (breakout going on Ace), and Lester (ace).

    it sucks that pettite retired because now the yankees will never let Joba go. Joba could be great if developed properly.
     
  15. guster

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    Fielder/Boras are supposed to be looking for looking for a $180M contract similiar to Teixeira. Wow. Lot of money and long term to put into a guy that does not get on base as often as Teixeira, doesn't field like him and has a body type that has proven to flame out fast when players hit their 30s. Who can afford that. And would even the Sox or Yankees pay that for a DH? Angles are less set at 1B but Morales is signed for 1 year at 2.5-$3M is. Think they could resign him for a lot less than Fielder. And they have a good 1B prospect in minors.

    Think other teams would try to steal Hosmer from Royals or Yelich fromthan pay $180 for Fielder. And Reds have Alonso as a trading chip. Seems like Fielder has a lot of competition at much less lower cost. Good luck getting an long term $180M contract.
     
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    Not so sure about Giants. Isn't their top prospect 1B Brandon Belt? Hits for power and average and something like 2nd in all minors last year for average. If he startes slow in triple A, maybe they rent Fielder for playoff run but have trouble seeing them pay all that scratch to fielder when they have this kid close. Or maybe he completly falls apart in Trip A?

    And again, the Brewers have to be way out of it to start dealing pieces. Trues, the system is not loaded with prospects and Melvin dealt a lot of what he had for ZG. But they have a good lineup and should be close at trade deadline. Right now, I see them more as a buyer for starting pitching come trade deadline.

    The Brew's are going to be MAJOR players on the trade market this year. I bet that pretty much everybody except Braun will be expendable. Fielder will definitely go and I actually think he'll end up in San Fransisco. That's a perfect fit for them.
     
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    Lalalalala can't hear you lalalalala

    Worth (no pun intended) noting that the Phils did score the second most runs in the NL last year, despite a bunch of injuries which at one point forced them to start the following lineup:

    Juan Castro SS
    Shane Victorino CF
    Jason Werth RF
    Ryan Howard 1B
    Ben Francisco LF
    Wilson Valdez 2B
    Cody Ransom 3B
    Dane Sardinha C
    Kyle Kendrick P

    Also despite Jason Werth hitting .186 with RISP (good for 215th out of 218 eligible major leaguers).
     
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    obviously the yankees would be willing to trade the farm for any Ace. The redsox actually have a young pitcher (Clay B.) and prospects to trade for a Pitcher and or Prospects and Ellusbury for a position player.

    i also think San Fran knows that it can make a push to add another ace and just ride their pitching again by trading using their farm (surprisingly deep).



    The Yankees have pitching in minors to trade too.

    Do you really think the RedSox would trade Clay B for another pitcher? Unless he blows up this year, he was in the Cy Young discussion last year. With his stuff and his success - why would they trade that. Unless it was for a Felix H?

    You could be right on Ellsbury but then who plays center? Cameron I suppose but he is getting up there. Reddick? Kalish could play there but think he is more of a corner OF.

    Who knows come trade deadline but they traded a bunch for AG. Highly doubt they trade away ss Iglesias. They are counting on Doubront as starter if someone goes down or relief again. They have pitchers Ranaudo and Britton but Epstein hates to trade away young pitchers. 1B prospect Rizzo could be bait but there seems to be so many good 1b prospects out there, don;t know how much they get in return.

    I highly doubt a package of Ellsbury, Rizzo and Ranaudo gets them Felix H. But maybe it gets them another solid starter if DiceK continues to be bad adventure most times he goes out there. I think ideally, they would like Doubront to quickly show he has the right stuff as a starter in Pawtucket and bring him up mid season to be #5 starter and another lefty if DiceK shows what he has shown the last few years.
     
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    Worth (no pun intended) noting that the Phils did score the second most runs in the NL last year, despite a bunch of injuries which at one point forced them to start the following lineup:

    Juan Castro SS
    Shane Victorino CF
    Jason Werth RF
    Ryan Howard 1B
    Ben Francisco LF
    Wilson Valdez 2B
    Cody Ransom 3B
    Dane Sardinha C
    Kyle Kendrick P

    Also despite Jason Werth hitting .186 with RISP (good for 215th out of 218 eligible major leaguers).


    And they should have a healthy Rollins, Utley and Howard - right? I thought Howard's power drop off was his ankle injury he played with? And that OF Domonic Brown sems to be on everyone'slist as best overall prospect or top 3.
     
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    ^ Brown did not exactly set the world on fire in limited playing time last year, but the skills are there. The hope last year was that he'd be the replacement in RF if Werth left, but at this point I think expectations are he'd be in a platoon situation at best. The hitting is tough to judge since he really wasn't playing consistently, but his defense needs some work. He's still viewed as a very strong prospect (Kieth Law had him as the #4 MLB prospect in a recent ranking on ESPN).

    A healthy year for Howard, Utley and Rollins would go a long way....(though I think Rollins needs to be dropped down in the batting order regardless). Phils don't have anyone that's an ideal leadoff hitter. The two candidates (Rollins and Victorino) had the lowest OBPs of the 8 starters, but you can't exactly put Carlos Ruiz and his team-leading .400 OPB in the leadoff spot.
     

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