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Leather cracking on EGs - please advise
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I have many pairs of shoes that I have owned for 10+ years including at least one pair that is 26+ years old (that happen to be similar to the OP's black shoes). I have never had this kind of cracking. To keep my shoes in condition I simply used a Meltonian colored creme polish and then kiwi or similar brands of wax as needed. I believe in rubbing it well into the leather. I also use shoe trees. All of my shoes have been soaked in the rain and left to naturally air dry away from the heat.
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This was a tough attrition laden thread, with some potent insights. DWFII my respect for you has increased five fold, you are a true professional - well done.Originally Posted by Northampton Novice
Thank you. A dram with you, sir!
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a further shoe care product update - jm weston creams are not made by saphir, but by famaco .... however formulation smells similar and jar says beeswax based (think i may have posted otherwise in the past, so apologies fellow shoe doods).
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Back to the original topic- last mail was sent to EG on Friday, and still no reaction whatsoever (and 4 people are copied in the email)... Wonder how much more I'll have to wait ...Originally Posted by Tibo
I would give it a week since you sent the email just before the weekend and I'm sure they receive quite a bit of emails that they have to filter through channels. I'm sure its tough to wait that long.
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I would give it a week since you sent the email just before the weekend and I'm sure they receive quite a bit of emails that they have to filter through channels. I'm sure its tough to wait that long.Originally Posted by Cuttingboard
I would agree, but they have always been very responsive when I sent emails, so I don't see why it should take more time now that the discussion has become a bit more tense...
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I stand corrected.Originally Posted by well-kept
Maybe they use the entire animal in mysterious ways. I have a collection of English watercolor brushes made from a mink-like animal called a Kolinsky. It takes the tail hair of 1500 animals to make a dozen brushes of a certain size, each individual hair graded by microscopic (literally) examination. The brushes aren't cheap, as you might imagine.
The best is Windsor & Newton series 7, named after Queen Victoria favourite brush size 7.
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By the way, walking around Manhattan today I passed a man wearing a pair of black shoes which were every bit as cracked as those worn by Prince Charles.
Here's the thing: If everyone knows you are heir to the throne, your cracked shoes will have a certain charm. This man, on the other hand, looked like a derelict in them, which he may not have been at all.
It's all a matter of balance. I personally love old things, from furniture to clothing, but to wear aged clothes you need a counterbalancing factor - youth, beauty, wealth, fame, or that certain aristocratic bearing - a look which may not be easy to achieve.
Here's the thing: If everyone knows you are heir to the throne, your cracked shoes will have a certain charm. This man, on the other hand, looked like a derelict in them, which he may not have been at all.
It's all a matter of balance. I personally love old things, from furniture to clothing, but to wear aged clothes you need a counterbalancing factor - youth, beauty, wealth, fame, or that certain aristocratic bearing - a look which may not be easy to achieve.
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Exactly right. Those are the brushes. I have many of them, some I've had for several decades.Originally Posted by well-kept
The old one was better made than new one, IMHO.
I have few of them, bought 20+yrs ago, when I was still a high school student. (I remember it cost ~USD300 to buy the size 12 at that time) yea, it sound crazy for a high school student, but anyway, Great brush!
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It's all a matter of balance. I personally love old things, from furniture to clothing, but to wear aged clothes you need a counterbalancing factor - youth, beauty, wealth, fame, or that certain aristocratic bearing - a look which may not be easy to achieve.Originally Posted by well-kept
Lots of truth here.
Rider,Originally Posted by DWFII
I know you are an advocate for Saphir Renovateur...and I don't want to step on your toes in that regard.
But didn't you say that it has mink oil in it?
And according to the interview that you quoted, isn't mink oil just an "euphemism for pig fat and silicone"?
So, just to get it straight in my own head, does Reno have silicone in it or not?
Just to finish this one up - and to the OP who also asked about the make-up of Renovateur....I just received the pdf file from the lab concerning the exact formula by %. It turns out 'Mink Oil' is in fact, Mink Oil. At least for Saphir.
'***** oil obtained from the subcutaneous fat of Mutela by extraction, then refined and winterized'.
As for silicone - none exists in Renovateur as confirmed by the owner this afternoon.
Never heard of Mutela, so I did a quick search......apparently it's good for stretch-marks also. Another use for Renovateur....Cheers!
Finally, just to clear another thing up I see posted around some; MDO Creams (Pommadier) are NOT beeswax based, they are Shea Butter based. The regular line Saphir creams are beeswax based.
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Just to finish this one up - and to the OP who also asked about the make-up of Renovateur....I just received the pdf file from the lab concerning the exact formula by %. It turns out 'Mink Oil' is in fact, Mink Oil. At least for Saphir.Originally Posted by RIDER
'***** oil obtained from the subcutaneous fat of Mutela by extraction, then refined and winterized'.
As for silicone - none exists in Renovateur as confirmed by the owner this afternoon.
Never heard of Mutela, so I did a quick search......apparently it's good for stretch-marks also. Another use for Renovateur....Cheers!
Finally, just to clear another thing up I see posted around some; MDO Creams (Pommadier) are NOT beeswax based, they are Shea Butter based. The regular line Saphir creams are beeswax based.
Excellent update. Since you mention it what are your thoughts on beeswax v. shea butter. Also, have you ever heard of Famaco (only thing that I can find online is he profile of a chemist who also worked for avel).
Excellent update. Since you mention it what are your thoughts on beeswax v. shea butter. Also, have you ever heard of Famaco (only thing that I can find online is he profile of a chemist who also worked for avel).Originally Posted by Kuro
Sure.
Honestly, I don't know the difference between beeswax and shea butter alone, but the cream MDO is far superior to the Saphir cream, IMO. The Saphir went on hard, and covered up ok, but not great...the MDO is very 'soft' and covers up and colors very well. I can assume the main base ingredient is a primary reason for this.
One thing for sure, I'm not interested in being a chemist.
Have no idea about Famaco, sorry. In a file of private label work I have (just to show clients how they can have things branded if interested) it includes JM Weston, but have no idea if it is current or not. Not my business.
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