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Zapasman

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It could be...Im trying to return them and go for the same size F and normal width. I love them!!
 

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+1 on the sizing issue with OEII. I got a pair before Christmas and they're about half a size bigger than my other U last shoes.
 

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Brand-new shell-- give it a little time to stretch and shrink before declaring defeat.


Point is it will in all probability not, and even if it does it will be minuscule, certainly not even close to filling that gap. But some people like it that way for shoes I know not sure about boots hence my question.
 

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The issue is the old english ii

Note the picture below - they're all in U last and in the same size

Old english II (shell) & Austerity (calf)



Austerity (calf) & wingtip adelaide (shell)



From my experience I don't feel any size difference between calf & shell.

At one point I had ordered 2 old english ii at the same time (one you see above and the other one in museum calf) and both felt bigger vs the other styles (calf or shell) around the instep area - not really sure why. But I gave up on the Old English II
Sorry for misunderstand you @agedashidofu. In my case, the F last Shell Wingtip Budapester is the big guy and the F last OEII the baby (supossedly both in narrow widht). I have taken some time to do your exercise but it came out with not much results



As stated above, hand welted shoes bought via email...hummmm. Notwithstanding, I believe that shells streches quite good, more than calf. The wingtip has been streched by myself for 12 hours and it worked fine. I wear it for a couple of hours and back to the streching room. Cheers.
 

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Sorry for misunderstand you @agedashidofu. In my case, the F last Shell Wingtip Budapester is the big guy and the F last OEII the baby (supossedly both in narrow widht). I have taken some time to do your exercise but it came out with not much results As stated above, hand welted shoes bought via email...hummmm. Notwithstanding, I believe that shells streches quite good, more than calf. The wingtip has been streched by myself for 12 hours and it worked fine. I wear it for a couple of hours and back to the streching room. Cheers.
The randomness is pretty mindboggling... I ended up giving my OE II to my brother...luckily everything else seemed to have been quite consistent for me (within margin) Oh well...still the best fitting and best value for me thus far...
 

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Mr. Kuty was very gentile. He is going to replace me the shoes with normal F widht size. Great service and great shoes (my first hand welted). I really appreciate the construction and craftmantship and of course I love them!!
 

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I thought the ball of your foot was straight across. Is it just the distance between the leftmost and rightmost edges of your foot?
 

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I thought the ball of your foot was straight across. Is it just the distance between the leftmost and rightmost edges of your foot?
"The Ball of the foot is found at the center of the heavy pad running under the foot at a rough 15 degree angle. This is the line where the base of all the toe joints are located –where the foot flexes. Measure for comfort here... But not loose."

From DWF II. Bootmaker and SF fellow.

PD,.Check his fantastic web site to see the rest of basic foot mesurements.
 

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Burg Alt Weins today:
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Starting to feel the need for another Vass purchase ...
 

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@Fred G. Unn what are you considering?

Nice altwiens by the way... the burgundy cousins to mine...


Love yours! I already have some dark brown pebble grain AS boots though. I'm sort of thinking something like the cognac scotch grain split toe that NMWA offers, although they have been out of my size for a long time now: http://www.nomanwalksalone.com/index.php/cognac-scotch-grain-norweger-3795.html

Or maybe in a boot. I guess it only takes 5 for a Vass MTO to happen ...
 

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