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Apr 16, 2024
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The typical "Italian" cut tends to be slimmer and more cropped for sure- I would size up to IT52 trousers. I have some Incotex in IT50 that are on the slimmer side, and I find the rise a little low even for a trouser with side-adjusters.

By contrast, I have Zegna and Armani semi-casual trousers in IT50 that are too large- I had a similar experience with Lardini. My Pal Zileri dress slacks in IT48 fit perfect, ditto GTA Il Pantalone. Boglioli IT50 fit good too.

I had a 32" size waist but over time have grown towards 34", In truth I'm somewhere near 33" which is too rare to find on sale.

If you buy a trouser too big in the waist, you can always get that fitted better, but you can't add seat room to an undersized trouser.


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Feb 7, 2024
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How old is too old for a vintage overcoat? Say it's made out of good quality cotton or wool (100% either way). How many years can a coat last, assuming a fairly good caring of it? Is it an element to judge when shopping? Say, I found a beautiful coat, but it was made in the 60s: Does it matter?


Stylish Dinosaur
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Jul 13, 2012
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Looking for a pair of green linen pants. I like these by Pini Parma but I'm afraid they might be cut a little slim. I have a 35" waist and a 45" seat with mid thigh measurements pretty much spot on with the size guide so I'd be surprised if these fit. Plus the feedback on the Pini Parm thread here is that their tops are all cut pretty tight/small so I doubt their trousers would be much different.
Paul Stuart always has great linen summer wear. I have a pair of darker green linen pants I’ve worn for years.


Stylish Dinosaur
Feb 9, 2011
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Met the owner of Bontoni today during a trunk show. A really nice guy, and very passionate about the work they do. He mentioned that during Covid, he had to move the workshop to his home!

He also mentioned that some very big brands had asked him to make their shoes as well, but he likes making shoes that are his own.

All that to say, we talked shop for a long time, and I ordered these monks in navy:


It’s actually not typical MTO, as Bontoni can make certain adjustments for fit (closer to MTM). I also asked if they could make the waist a bit more narrow (ala G&G), and he obliged. Needless to say, very excited to see how they turn out.

Here’s an article about them in The NY Times:



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Sep 7, 2022
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Going to get shot for this, but I think that’s just a bad fit (for him - her outfit looks sharp)

It's clearly a (very) bad fit, ridiculously oversized. My point is however about the epoch: the 50s with the 30s and 40s are the golden decades for classic mensclothing, it looks absolutely out of its age.

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