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That picture is about the size and extent of the Polish Army in 1939
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. With the exception of Great Britain, you are correct about Germany and its leading Europe in industrialization/mechanization. However, your point that everyone in Europe had one or more horses and it being a necessity for daily life in the 1930s is a bit of a stretch. Larger-than-ever urban populations throughout Europe (larger than rural populations) make this tough to support. You may have employed some hyperbole, but in any case I granted you earlier and now, that it is likely horses were much more prevalent then than now making shell a more common product.

Also, Henry Ford began the assembly line in about 1908 when the Ford model T was $1300. By 1918, the Ford Model T cost $250 making it much more affordable for the non-wealthy well before the 1920s. The majority of Americans were not dependent upon the horse in the 1910s.

I have enjoyed discussing history and the horse with you MoneyWS, and I apologize to those on this thread for straying a bit.
 
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Sweet! They look great! Were you apprehensive about buying from someone with only 68 feedback?


100% feedback on 68 items. I wouldn't have been too worried - doubt the seller is a professional is all. Enjoy your new shoes sir!
 

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It would probably never happen, but if Alden started sourcing Cordovan from Joseph Clayton & Sons (for example) and the quality remained the same, I'm certain lots of us wouldn't care about the whole "sticking with Horween" thing.
This is of course the classic case of competition in the global economy. And to a certain extent it may be inevitable. But for me, choosing to buy Alden was/is more than just getting a pair of shell shoes. Around 2 years ago, I've never even heard of shell cordovan. But I did set out to see if I can buy a good pair of made in USA shoes. That’s how I came across Alden. I’m a manufacturing guy and I wanted to believe America can still produce good quality products. When I learned that even the leather was sourced in Chicago, the more I liked the idea of shelling out (no pun intended) the amount of money a pair of Alden requires. It supports American jobs where we need it the most. Additionally, it preserves a manufacturing tradition that to me personally means a lot. Alden and Horween have a mutually beneficial relationship. Can I see a situation where Alden needs to source shell from outside the US? You bet! But I sure like what’s in place so I can continue saying am I wearing a pair of American shoes.

What I have posted is by no means meant to portray a “high and mighty” attitude. It’s my personal perspective. And I really wish Alden and Horween can come-out ahead because I badly want to add a Whiskey, Cigar and Ravello make-up to my wardrobe before I'm unable to walk. My #8 PTB and black captoe are in need of some serious variety.
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That picture is about the size and extent of the Polish Army in 1939
biggrin.gif
. With the exception of Great Britain, you are correct about Germany and its leading Europe in industrialization/mechanization. However, your point that everyone in Europe had one or more horses and it being a necessity for daily life in the 1930s is a bit of a stretch. Larger-than-ever urban populations throughout Europe (larger than rural populations) make this tough to support. You may have employed some hyperbole, but in any case I granted you earlier and now, that it is likely horses were much more prevalent then than now making shell a more common product.

Also, Henry Ford began the assembly line in about 1908 when the Ford model T was $1300. By 1918, the Ford Model T cost $250 making it much more affordable for the non-wealthy well before the 1920s. The majority of Americans were not dependent upon the horse in the 1910s.

I have enjoyed discussing history and the horse with you MoneyWS, and I apologize to those on this thread for straying a bit.
For anyone who wants to read more about horses and WWII: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_II
 

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Sweet! They look great! Were you apprehensive about buying from someone with only 68 feedback?


I wasn't - he's been on eBay for almost 5 yrs. Odds are he hasn't been investing that time to screw me over my $137. I have only been burned on eBay once in 15 yrs. KNOCK ON SHELL err...WOOD
 

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all these brown CXL pics are making me want them..after the patina, it seems like they are #8-ish, seems to develop a nice mahogany hue.
 

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Would friends on the forum know if the Alden BB snap last used in its cap toe bluchers is more like the aberdeen last or more like the hampton last from Alden. Appreciate your help.
 

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I've used the search function and found it difficult to find my answer.

Are natural Chromexcel shoes going to change a lot, in terms of colour and wear? I would like to get a pair of natural Chromexcel PTB to wear with raw denim, but I don't think they will look as good when all browned.

Pictures are nice, I did find a few, but if anyone has aged Chromexcel PTB natural with jeans, then please share :D thanks
 

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Thanks for posting.  It's about time that other people are recognizing the demand and doing something about the shell shortage.  Having said that, I am sticking with Horween.  Those guys know how to make a piece of shell that shine.  


Ditto. A really informative article. Thanks for the info.
 
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