The Architecture Thread

[SkinnyGoomba]

My ideal would be a walk-in pantry, which eliminates a lot of unnecessary cabinetry and the fridge.

 

[mbaum]

The one sacrifice I'd feel obligated to make for the sake of design is the large fridge. I'd go with a smaller refrigerator underneath the counter, likely with glass doors. Crouching over to fetch butter is far preferable to having a huge ugly fridge that ***** up all the lines of the room. Since it can only be about 6'3" tall feet, and since suspended cabinets can only be about 5'9" above the finished floor, you're dealing with two incongruent sets of lines. Add a counter at 36" and now you're detailing with a third horizontal benchmark. Then you have to design around water with wet surfaces, which have to play off the rest of the kitchen's materials, which is a problem because each material has its own geometry.. Then you have to deal with appliance geometry and find a way to organize the cabinet geometry around it. Then you have the line at the top of the cabinets. Then maybe a range hood. Then the kitchen table height. It's just a mess. If you keep everything below the counter, you have practical tradeoffs, but you have one important horizontal line that all other visual aspects of the kitchen can be designed to coordinate with. It makes it so much easier. That tall fridge with 80 lbs of frozen chicken cutlets is the source of all your problems.

My ideal would be a walk-in pantry, which eliminates a lot of unnecessary cabinetry and the fridge.

Got it, guys and agree, especially with having all under the counter, a kitchen look that I really like for the cleanliness and simplicity. Thanks for the explanations.

Mike

 

[StephenHero]



The kitchen is fine. As usual the squiggly lines in SH's head overrule function, to the detriment of any practicality.

Show me a kitchen with a tall fridge and I'll tell you why it's ******.

 

[itsstillmatt]



1. Was slow in reading you guys earlier responses on the kitchen as to proportions off between kitchen/ table/ stairs and low chairs on island. Yeah, I don't see all of that at all. Sat on many restaurant counters that have a similar set up and never bugged me as the concept of openness and view is still there. I am not the tallest but never had the feeling of sitting in front of a white wall
   
    
   

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   If I wanted to eat at a restaurant, I would go to one. In a home, this looks ******.
   

   Show me a kitchen with a tall fridge and I'll tell you why it's ******.

   
   
   There are plenty of good, tall fridges. Some are in separate rooms. Others have panels to match the cabinets and look as though they are part of a tall, pantry section of the kitchen. This one happens to look like one of those ****** ass pebble faced white ones you buy at Sears and, hopefully, put in the garage to store the kids' drinks.

 

[StephenHero]

These are fine. **** the rest.

 

[sugarbutch]

Above-the-counter cabinets generally don't look very good. And, in terms of the feeling one gets in using the kitchen, they're right in your face making everything feel cramped. I tried to persuade my wife to go with a design which eliminated them, but I failed.

 

[mbaum]

Those kitchens are gorgeous. Now I want to redo mine.

 

[Find Finn]

You guys must live in some huge ass houses, if you believe wall cabinets is something you can live without, any normal sized house/apartment needs them, as you can't have a full wall of tower units or a pantry.

The problem is that most manufactures make them too deep and people fit them too low, so they get in the way, also people tend to buy base units where they can't get their feet under so, they bend over more than they really should.

 

[UnnamedPlayer]

Because it's not made of wallpaper, you stupid ******* moron.

what?

It's a floor.
Poor the damn thing in one piece and saw cut lines if that's the look you're going for.

And by the way, all the kitchens you chose look like ****.

 

[SkinnyGoomba]

Terrazzo is poured onto concrete and the joints are placed at the same places as where the joints exist in the concrete substrate. Or, it's applied as tile. Either case does not lend itself to matching across seams.

 

[archetypal_yuppie]



These are fine. **** the rest.

Is there not a glaring inconsistency between "honest living" and having a kitchen whose chief characteristic is a spartan look rather than utility / ability to cook food?

 

[itsstillmatt]



You guys must live in some huge ass houses, if you believe wall cabinets is something you can live without, any normal sized house/apartment needs them, as you can't have a full wall of tower units or a pantry.

The problem is that most manufactures make them too deep and people fit them too low, so they get in the way, also people tend to buy base units where they can't get their feet under so, they bend over more than they really should.

A wall of full height cabinets is fine, but upper cabinets above countertops are awful. I've never had them myself, but being in kitchens with them feels very claustrophobic.

 

[StephenHero]



what?

It's a floor.
Poor the damn thing in one piece and saw cut lines if that's the look you're going for.

And by the way, all the kitchens you chose look like ****.

No, dumbshit.

 

[Find Finn]



A wall of full height cabinets is fine, but upper cabinets above countertops are awful. I've never had them myself, but being in kitchens with them feels very claustrophobic.

Never had that problem, they can be annoying if mounted too low, though.

Unless you have a 500 sq.ft. kitchen you need the wall units for storage.

 

[sugarbutch]

You don't need a huge kitchen to forego upper cabinets, you just need to let go of the notion that every wall needs a countertop.