should tie be seen or not - see images

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  1. masterphotog

    masterphotog Well-Known Member

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    Just curious whether the tie should 'peek' through at the bottom of a waistcoat or should it be concealed and just be seen above?

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  2. FlaneurNYC

    FlaneurNYC Senior member

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    Personally, I prefer the second shot. In the first shot it looks like the tie is too long.
     


  3. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I remember the last time you posted such questions; I gotta say, as far as "does this look good" threads, your pictures are second to none.

    The vest and pants are fantastic (though the pocket is gaping), and the tie probably goes well with them, but I'm really not feeling that shirt. And the second image looks better.
     
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    eluther Senior member

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    The tie's tip should rest at your belt line. So, no, you shouldn't see the tie.
     


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    Looks cleaner without the tip showing
     


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    Agree: no tie at bottom looks better.
     


  7. Hacking jacket

    Hacking jacket Senior member

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    Without, Bottom button left undone, perfect match with pants and its a good 4 pocket, lapel 5-button waistcoat.

    The only issues are
    1. slight ruffling on the midriff, you could have it 'taken in a bit'
    2. Lapels ... difficult to wear it as a 3-piece (2 lots of lapels would clash)
     


  8. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    With or without a vest, the tie is noticeably too long in the first picture. Look at how far past his belt line it is. The fact that you can see it past his vest is the secondary issue.
     
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  10. in stitches

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    agree with these.
     


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    Got admit good 'traditional' blend/ match of colour: tie, pants, vest and shirt.
     


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    i think the shirt is a bit dark/busy for the look, but the colors i like.
     


  13. Hacking jacket

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    It is a bit, but I think the fitting of the shirt is the main issue. The shirt sleeve is fractionally too long and particularly there is a lot of ruffling around the arm socket area. Part of this is a result of the waistcoat (vest?) which exacerbates a slightly oversized shirt: the shirt may be too broad causing it to 'hang off' the shoulders.

    However, getting a shirt fitted on the 'yoke' can be hard. I've had a bespoke shirt under-construction for the past year (literally) and is still not finished: it is the fitting around the arm socket area that I'm now really picky about and keep returning it for further alteration. I can be picky because I'm a long term customer and of course bespoke by a London shirtmaker is $$$$

    My shirt maker (London) dresses movie stars in shirts for historical movies, "The Iron Lady" was one such film and "Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy" was another other.

    Having said all that, I really dig this guys look. Its like a quintessential British 'tweed look', without tweeds. 'I am a decent and trustworthy guy' type statement, translation into UK English 'I am a gentleman'. His attention to small detail (tie) is part of the look.
     


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    Very nice look, but tie is too long and never should show through a vest that fits properly.
     


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    Regarding the shirt. I actually don't hate it (even though it's an eyesore in and of itself): the stripes go well with the rest of the outfit, and so does its greyness. Replace it with a somewhat more discreetly-striped shirt and you've got yourself a winner.

    (Also: you look cool as feck! :slayer::slayer::slayer:)
     
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