Same shoe in different leathers

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  1. kolecho

    kolecho Senior member

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    I am considering ordering a wholecut design in the same last in several different types of leather - namely calf, cordovan and suede in brown, burgundy and dark brown respectively. I have never done so before, but I am partial to wholecut.

    What do you think? Is this temporary insanity?
     


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    I have it in burgundy and black shell under the BB label and as Alden's 666 in suede. When I find things I like, I stick with them.

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    I am considering ordering a wholecut design in the same last in several different types of leather - namely calf, cordovan and suede in brown, burgundy and dark brown respectively. I have never done so before, but I am partial to wholecut.

    What do you think? Is this temporary insanity?

    No; it's a good idea if you really, really like the shoe. I have the EG Newbury (maybe my alltime favorite shoe--at least to this point!) in burgundy calf and mink suede, and am thinking of adding burnt pine. However, the two I have are on different lasts--the calf on the 888 and the suede on the 606--and only the calf has broguing.

    If you're including cordovan, I suspect you are considering Vass. Since cordovan is in the mix, you will want to be careful in the design you select, since I doubt that it would look great in a very elegant, trim, sleek shoe. So, in my opinion at least, a U-last shoe like the Oxford Medallion would look good in calf and suede, but not in cordovan. The 3-eyelet London, however, could probably work in all three, as could shoes on other, larger-scale, lasts.
     


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    kolecho Senior member

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    If the shoes are made on the same last and design, do you think it is enough to distinguish them purely on materials used (i.e.: cordovan, suede, calf in different colours).
     


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    i would go for it and not worry if they are comfortable then why not but maybe on some you could have a pattern punched in the toe cap also not only color change!
     


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    This is perfectly fine, so long as we're not talking about similar shades of brown.

    For example, I own the RLPL Mackay in both black and dark oak and they're fine by me, and I don't suppose this would be a reason for me not to, say, get a third in Edwardian or light tan.
     


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    - although this was more due to not being able to resist a bargain than intentionally getting the same model in different leathers. [​IMG]
     


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    With the variety of EG lasts and hides , it's quite easy to amass multiples. Here are a few of mine...

    Dover 4x
    Malvern 4x
    Mackay/Asquith 4x
    Ecton/Carter 2x
    Newbury 3x
    Southwold 2x
    Berkeley 3x
    Chelsea 2x
     


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    I am considering ordering a wholecut design in the same last in several different types of leather - namely calf, cordovan and suede in brown, burgundy and dark brown respectively. I have never done so before, but I am partial to wholecut.

    What do you think? Is this temporary insanity?


    1. Do you like the style?
    2. Do you like the leathers?
    3. Will you wear them

    If your answer is "yes" to all three above, then you should proceed with your order as quickly as possible so you can enjoy your shoes sooner rather than later!

    There's nothing at all wrong with this. I do it. Men's lace-ups really come in only three basic styles: wingtip, cap toe, and plain toe. Perforations and instep design (Blucher/Bal) add a little variety. But who's going to notice that these are variations on the exact same design and last? And even if someone did, who would think poorly of your choice? Different leathers provide enough separation that it just won't matter. Therefore, if you find something you really like, go for it and enjoy in good health!
     


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    With the variety of EG lasts and hides , it's quite easy to amass multiples. Here are a few of mine...

    Dover 4x
    Malvern 4x
    Mackay/Asquith 4x
    Ecton/Carter 2x
    Newbury 3x
    Southwold 2x
    Berkeley 3x
    Chelsea 2x


    I do believe I've said this before, but allow me to say it again.....

    I hate you. [​IMG]
     


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    Consistency in footwear isn't necessarily a bad thing in menswear. We definitely have fewer choices in the style department as compared to women, with a relatively finite number of permutations. Personally, I think these constraints provide a helpful framework. Many posters appear to favor specific brands and lasts--notables include JLibourel and his AEs in the Old #8 last and #4 last, Aportnoy and his seemingless endless collection of EG, Ken Pollock and his American-made collection, etc. With considerations to both fit and price point in my own rotation, I've found that Crockett and Jones benchgrade are the best choice for me--specifically the 238, 318, and Polo chisel last reminscent of the 337, and bought everything I could find in those particular fits. This periodically leads to redundancies. With variances in color and/or brouging, the shoes are similar but clearly not identical. Actually, I've found that shoes of similar color and toecap design, are less distinguishable than shoes differentiated by leather type.

    Btw, I own two shell cordovan bluchers made by Crockett and Jones. Same leather, same style, different lasts. Interestingly, the creasing pattern and width actually influence their roles in my rotation. Its obsessive but makes sense to me. [​IMG]
     


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    I think that it is fine to get several of the same shoe in different leathers. Personally, it is not something that I do.

    That being said, I do not think that wholecuts look particularly good in suede, and I think that Roger is correct that they would not be very good in cordovan.
     


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    That's a great idea. Having a certain shoe in several colors and leathers just multiplies the enjoyment.
     


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