Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

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  1. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I apparently owe Ms. Horyn an apology. I was conflating her views and attitude with those of Suzy Menkes, as expressed in this op ed: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/t-magazine/the-circus-of-fashion.html?_r=0.

    I'm sure that you've read it, but the gist of it is "OMG, it's all so tawdry now. Can just anyone be cool now?"
     
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    Hm, that's interesting.

    There's some academic work on the effect of media structure on political views as well. Somewhat related. The story goes: in the 1970s, everyone watched the Vietnam war on the same three news stations, and probably read about the war through the same three newspapers. So you had a national discourse. Nowadays, there are a million media outlets, which makes it easier for people to filter out anything that doesn't already conform to their beliefs. So you have a fragmentation and polarization of political and social views. Tons of political micro-communities can exist because of the new fragmented and Balkanized media landscape.

    Bringing this back to fashion, I guess you would have to somehow figure out how influential those "big" designers really were -- although I suppose their influence was also really tied to the media structure at the time. Kind of two-way relationship. People write about you because you're kind of influential, and then you become influential because people write about you.
     
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    I wonder, do smaller independent designers ever gain major notoriety without being bought by some larger label? In Paris and Milan, down the side streets well away from the Margiellas of the world, you can find fresh and interesting designs from unknowns. But they seem to stay unknown.
     
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    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    What is your definition of big? Rag&Bone is now a staple is both department stores, online and b&m boutiques, and it is in 700+ doors and has nearly a dozen freestanding stores. It's partially owned by Andrew Rosen, who owns part of Theory, but I believe that he is a minority owner.
     
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    Drew Keith is a smaller, independent designer and he's pretty notorious.
     
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    This is true, look at the music industry nowadays.
     
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    What ever happened to ol' Drew, anyway? Hear he went off his rocker and disappeared.
     
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    All their images are so nice... Clothes look great but $$$. Anyone here buy anything from them yet?
     
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    He spent all his money on korean hookers, blow and dog treats.
     
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    What a shame. He had a good thing going before it got ahead of him.
     
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    Nicelynice owns some and I think most of the NMWA crew have handled their stuff.
     
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    Ivwri has I think (not seen him around for a while)
     
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