Thanks for the info Brummie. I might not disregard the suede combo then. But do you know what EG charges for veldtschoen? Preferably I should go for the rough type of leather as well (can't remember the name of it?) and on the 202 last, but not sure if EG does shearling on anything but the 64 last. Anyway, I like the Cheaneys, but I think they're a bit to similar to my Islays (that I will btw have resoled with ridgeway next time they'll need it.