#2 in LA GUY's top ten jeans list actual measure: waist 32" length 32" the waist should tighten back up after the wash. i will gently wash these for the buyer, if desired. things i should point out, there's a small hole in the right leg honeycomb: and a hole in the right back pocket. the warp yarns rubbed off, leaving the weft yarns. i still have the detached nudie tag, if you care for it. and you should notice the nudie stitching has been removed from the left pocket. i will be shipping from philly using USPS PRIORITY with delivery confirmation and insurance. i will provide a tracking number upon shipping. references upon request. cheers and thanks!.