Nigel Cabourn

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  1. desolate

    desolate Active Member

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    I have read your blog and seen your videos and your English is considerably better than mine normally!
     


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    Many thanks, kind sir :)
     
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    James Taylor & Son (Marylebone) window display: The Hilary Boot

    This brown walking boot was made in 1952 for Sir Edmond Hilary to climb Mount Everest.

    It was never worn because the parcel broke in transit to India and one boot was lost; a replacement boot was made and later the lost boot was found and returned.

    It is a whole cut with only a seam at the back, two mid soles, double stitched, hob nails soles and a recessed toe plate.

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  4. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Senior member

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    Regarding comments on the previous page about quality, I think it's useful to separate the idea of quality from design. A lot of what was described in the last page of comments is more about design than actual quality. It would be like saying green apples are of better quality than red apples, simply because they're green and sour.

    The quality of my Cabourn pieces have all been top notch -- fabrics from top-end mills, nice level of detailing, solid construction, great trims, etc. I don't know how the hole appeared in that one poster's jacket, but the fact that a hole appear doesn't ipso facto say that the jacket was of poor quality. Holes can appear on Savile Row garments, depending on the type of fabric, how the garment was treated, etc. The jacket may still be constructed to the best standards.

    Prices are high but you're paying for design. Reducing everything here to just "quality" almost misses the point.
     


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    I agree that a hole in a jacket necessarily doesn't mean that the quality is bad but it could be an indication.

    I think that there were a lot of useful comments about the quality. Durability which is mentioned is obviously linked to quality.

    The "sale pitch" which Nigel uses in his interviews are often based around that fact that you buy something that will last for many years and i have "bought" this story myself too. I dont think this story matches the reality.
     


  6. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Senior member

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    Literally every fashion brand and designer says that though. Nigel's position is a little more defendable because he specializes in workwear, which tends to be more durable than fine Italian cashmere knits or some avant garde designer pieces. But literally everyone says "buy this thing! You'll wear it/ love it/ use it for the rest of your life."

    IMO, design is more important than durability. It's not that difficult to make something that lasts (outside of certain items, such as trousers, anyway). It's much harder to design things that someone will love in ten years time. Most clothes on the market won't fall apart, but few of them are things you'll want to wear after a few years. IMO, Nigel Cabourn does some really great pieces, and as much as my tastes have changed over the years, some of the things I've bought from him remain favorites. It's hard to name many companies like that.
     
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    The one thing that bugs me about the Hillary boot display is that the shoelaces are way too short and it's tied in a granny knot. You have to get the details right.
     


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    My question was how people have experienced the quality of Nigel Cabourn garments. I personally think about durability when i think about quality but i guess people could have different views on what quality is.

    There are many companies that make great pieces that lasts many years. I love my blue Acne shirt today as much as i did when i bought it five years ago. Its blue, it fits me perfectly and its something i wanna wear for more years to come. I have several other examples of "timeless" pieces in my wardrobe which isn't Nigel Cabourn. Yes, Nigel Cabourn does some great pieces but i think its important to be critical when i experience that the quality is rather bad on the products that they produce. And the last collections has been rather uninteresting in my opinion..
     


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