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NFL 2011/2012 Discussion

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by phreak, Jun 30, 2011.

  1. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    Quoted for giggles. I hate the Cowboys.
     
  2. munchausen

    munchausen Senior member

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    Romo has never been what was wrong with this team. He's only occasionally been what's right with it but the Cowboys could win a Super Bowl with him as QB no problem. They have basically had the same problems for the past 10 years: the O-line and the secondary. They never seem to solve those problems and until they do they will be a permanent 9-7 team.
     
  3. MetroStyles

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    Romo gets way too much heat because he tends to mess up in a few big televised situations. If it wasn't for the botched hold against Seattle, chances are the reputation that he now has would have never begun for him.

    That said, he was a big part of the problem against the Jets. The fumble in particular. You cannot give away 3 points when you are up 7 in the 4th. You just can't.
     
  4. phreak

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    Seriously..all but like 5 teams would kill to have Romo as their QB. He has the 4th highest career QB rating. Only A-Rod, Steve Young, and Rivers have higher. He's not 'middle of the pack' he's elite by basically any metric you can use (except playoff wins blah blah it's a team game etc.) My biggest problem with him is that he doesn't (appear to) have the intensity that a team leader should.

    And I will stand by my declaration that the Bears suck. I think their o/u wins started at 9 and dropped to a low of 8, which is where it ended before yesterday's game.

    Also, lol @ Cleveland being 2.5 point favorites over Indy this weekend
     
  5. JayJay

    JayJay Senior member

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    The Colts could sure use him right now. :nodding:
     
  6. texas_jack

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    Just goes to show that shit won't make you a superbowl champion
     
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  7. airblaster503

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    OK stat geek, there is much more to a quarterbacks performance than a QB rating that nobody is quite sure how to figure out. The point is that he has messed up in plenty of clutch situations, that alone takes him from the elite catagory. These are mistakes you would expect out of a quarterback with only a few years under his belt in the league, this is Romo's 9th year. He just doesn't have the it factor to take that team to the next level. At this point it is a mental thing with him that he should have overcame by this point in his career, chances of him overcoming that at this point are extremely slim and I will expect the Cowboys to be looking for a new QB in the offseason. Other qb's I think you can put in that catagory, Jay Cutler and Eli Manning. Sure Manning won a Superbowl but since he has done nothing. Both him and Cutler have the same problems with turning the ball over as Romo.
     
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  8. MetroStyles

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    Actually Romo is quite good at leading a team down the field in the last two minutes. I would know since I have honestly seen every one of his games in the NFL (really). No excuses for Sunday night, but just saying. The perception of players is largely influenced by the media and the sample bias of the moments we as fans have witnessed ourselves. He has had a couple of gaffs in big televised moments that have led to his labeling as an unclutch player. It isn't necessarily true, but he didn't help his legacy on Sunday.
     
  9. fir3fox

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    Brady is the best QB EVAR...

    btw, I just heard one of the MNF hosts apologize for saying some "inappropriate words earlier".

    Did he curse on air? I must of missed it.
     
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  10. airblaster503

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    Not sure how to embed videos but here it is:
     
  11. Texasmade

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    Lol, not as good as the World Cup interview where the French guy translated "go fuck yourself you son of a bitch" on live TV.
     
  12. fir3fox

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    *shit* -- ha! That wasn't so bad, he tossed it out there pretty casually too. =)

    That hit YouTube pretty quick!
     
  13. phreak

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    To add/repeat on what MS said..Romo really isn't the choke artist everyone makes him out to be. A Cowboy follower would know that public perception does not equal reality in this case. And lol @ the Cowboys looking for a new qb this offseason. Well, at least not to compete for the starting job.

    And this stat geek also thinks the most clutch( far and away) QB of this generation is one who has only won a singular SB. I'm not sure if the stats support me (but I would bet they do) and this view is really opposite of public perception.


    Only one team wins per year...and it's pretty tough for even the 'best team' to win in the NFL's bo1 playoff format.
     
  14. HRoi

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    just came back from MNF Dolphins - Patriots. the game was nothing to write home about, but i think we set the NFL record for fights in the stands :slayer:
     
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    Are you talking about Manning? If so, in the regular season, I may agree, in the post season though, nope. Manning is less than .500 in the playoffs.
     
  16. phreak

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    Yup. And that is exactly where my difference of opinion is apparent; I value regular season games much more than others tend to. Please nobody respond with 'well the goal of an NFL team is a SB' :violin: cuz that is silly (ignores a lot of data points) and I won't respond lol

    GO OAKLAND!!(?)
     
  17. Rambo

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    GO DOLPHINS! REGGIE BUSH SURE LOOKS GREAT ON ALL THOSE BILLBOARDS!
     
  18. Nil

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    Any argument you could have possibly made in favor of your opinion has been invalidated by your rooting for Oakland. Sorry.
     
  19. phreak

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    Week: 3-2
    NO game played out close to how I expected (thought the Saint's DEF would be better than useless) but the ATL game a complete surprise.

    Season: 3-2

    I'm gonna try to write actual analysis instead of just the picks moving forward and hope for feedback from you guys. After week one bettors tend to get carried away with what they saw/read even though it's an extremely small sample size. So I'm gonna look for favorable odds with teams that did much better/worse than expected for example Atl, Chi, Jax, cinci, baltimore(!!), SF and possibly play the over-corrections.
     
  20. phreak

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    Ha I was trying to steer the convo away from the QB talk. I don't give a shit about Oakland although McFadden is pretty fun to watch. Also, Janikowski just kicked a 63 yard fg. That's neat I guess
     

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