My Balmoral Boots

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by AnGeLiCbOrIs, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Slewfoot

    Slewfoot Senior member

    Messages:
    4,503
    Likes Received:
    545
    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Location:
    New York
    Michael - nice stuff. Very G&G-esque. Is that a double leather sole I see?
     
  2. Wes Bourne

    Wes Bourne Senior member

    Messages:
    3,865
    Likes Received:
    149
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Hi all, after a wonderfully pleasant meeting with Cliff yesterday, I present the shoes that he's loving made for me. Delivered in time (my birthday).

    I'm very pleased with them.

    So without any further delay, here are the pictures.

    [​IMG]


    Clinton, very nice color on those. More importantly, a belated happy birthday to you! [​IMG]
     
  3. Michael Ay329

    Michael Ay329 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,582
    Likes Received:
    48
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Location:
    From Parts Unknown
    yes, its a double

    I prefer the comfort of a double leather sole when its a balmoral boot

    I tried a single sole with my G&G Wigmore...but I've having it redone with a double micro sole even as we speak
     
  4. Pengranger

    Pengranger Senior member

    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    8
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Location:
    Nantwich, UK
    Insane!

    [​IMG]


    Thanks for posting Michael! They look terrific! The only problem is that I now want a pair!

    I presume it will be a couple of weeks before you actually get them into your hands. It would be great if you could comment on your view on quality and fit compared to your G&G's. Thanks.
     
  5. Steven Aver

    Steven Aver Senior member

    Messages:
    1,929
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2008
    I have a pair of Bal boots on order myself. Will keep everyone updated.
     
  6. Ich_Dien

    Ich_Dien Senior member

    Messages:
    5,799
    Likes Received:
    611
    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2007
    Location:
    Venezia, Italy
    Truly terrific balmoral boots there. Each time I talk myself out of ordering from Cliff, and then someone posts another pair that gets my attention.
     
  7. Haemus

    Haemus Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    93
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Location:
    Ulpia Serdica
    Thanks for posting Michael! They look terrific! The only problem is that I now want a pair!

    I presume it will be a couple of weeks before you actually get them into your hands. It would be great if you could comment on your view on quality and fit compared to your G&G's. Thanks.


    +1.
    I have a feeling you are not alone with your problem Pengranger.
     
  8. Michael Ay329

    Michael Ay329 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,582
    Likes Received:
    48
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Location:
    From Parts Unknown
    Pictures taken with a flimsy 2 mega pixel iPhone camera

    I give thanks to the OP who was able to share his Clifford Roberts experieince on this thread and thus begin my own Odyssey

    Boots delivered just as I had ordered them

    Out of the box, boots fit great...especially considering they are oxxfords and I have a high instep. As a point of comparison, I own a pair of G&G Canterbury boots which hurt my instep out of the box and required some breaking in...and now fit wonderfully

    The whole experience with Clifford was great. He didn't demand full payment up front...just a reasonable deposit. All done through PayPal

    He responds to e-mails only in less than 24 hours...at times less than an hour

    You pay the balance, including shipping (which is the last thing he calculates), when the boots are completed along with the shoe trees...through PayPal.

    I welcomed his e-mails with attached photos of my boots in the construction process

    The special last Clifford used was made by himself in collaboration with Springline in Northampton, England...he does not use Edward Green lasts. In fact I own an EG 888 last and Clifford's...out of the box is roomier in the tox box area and has more of a chiseled look.

    I would consider his front toe last shape to be a combo of chiseled and soft squared. It is less squared than my favoriate last (G&G's TG73).

    I will be reordering with him in the fall after I get measured by Springline for my own bespoke last...in the hopes of creating an even better fit.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Haemus

    Haemus Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    93
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Location:
    Ulpia Serdica
    Pictures taken with a flimsy 2 mega pixel iPhone camera

    I give thanks to the OP who was able to share his Clifford Roberts experieince on this thread and thus begin my own Odyssey

    Boots delivered just as I had ordered them

    Out of the box, boots fit great...especially considering they are oxxfords and I have a high instep. As a point of comparison, I own a pair of G&G Canterbury boots which hurt my instep out of the box and required some breaking in...and now fit wonderfully

    The whole experience with Clifford was great. He didn't demand full payment up front...just a reasonable deposit. All done through PayPal

    He responds to e-mails only in less than 24 hours...at times less than an hour

    You pay the balance, including shipping (which is the last thing he calculates), when the boots are completed along with the shoe trees...through PayPal.

    I welcomed his e-mails with attached photos of my boots in the construction process

    The special last Clifford used was made by himself in collaboration with Springline in Northampton, England...he does not use Edward Green lasts. In fact I own an EG 888 last and Clifford's...out of the box is roomier in the tox box area and has more of a chiseled look.

    I would consider his front toe last shape to be a combo of chiseled and soft squared. It is less squared than my favoriate last (G&G's TG73).

    I will be reordering with him in the fall after I get measured by Springline for my own bespoke last...in the hopes of creating an even better fit.

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]


    These boots are beautuful. Congratulations Michael Ay329. May you wear them long with the happiest smile.
    Double sole?
     
  10. Michael Ay329

    Michael Ay329 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,582
    Likes Received:
    48
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Location:
    From Parts Unknown
    I now order all of my boots with a double sole. I once tried the G&G Wigmore with a single sole, but I found it to be uncomfortable & am having it resoled with a double micro sole even as we speak
     
  11. banis

    banis Senior member

    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Location:
    Moscow, Russia
    Very nice boots. I like it.
    Where can e-mail address of Clifford Roberts be found?
     
  12. Pengranger

    Pengranger Senior member

    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    8
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Location:
    Nantwich, UK
    Michael, thanks for posting the pictures. The boots really do look great.

    My bespoke lasts were ready yesterday, so my journey for another pair of Cliff's shoes is starting again...


    Very nice boots. I like it.
    Where can e-mail address of Clifford Roberts be found?


    http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=33
     
  13. Michael Ay329

    Michael Ay329 Senior member

    Messages:
    1,582
    Likes Received:
    48
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2007
    Location:
    From Parts Unknown
    Side by side comparison of the G&G's Canterbury with Clifford's Balmoral boot

    G&G's boots are longer and the placement of their semi-brogue line compared to Clifford's makes the eye feel the G&G is longer

    Clifford's toe box area feels bigger and this photo shows why

    As a side note, Clifford uses a different quality leather than G&G. I will not make an uneducated statement that one leather is better than the other...its just that I notice a difference.

    G&G's boot feels stiffer than Clifford's. I personally like the variety...one boot provides more support while the other feels softer.

    Obviously with G&G bespoke you can get whatever quality leather you desire...while Clifford has a selection of leathers...for an upcharge, he too has access to Cordovan horse leather and other better quality leathers, for example, when I desired a dark brown calf leather called Black Coffee, he found it and could acquire it for about 200 pounds

    I will continue to be a client of both G&G and Clifford Roberts as they both provide a quality product...each with its own strengths. But if the bespoke last from Springline improves the fit of Clifford's shoes even better...its tough to deny he provides the customer with almost whatever designs (within reason), with a bespoke lasted fit and at a value price

    [​IMG]

    G&G TG73 squared last compared to Clifford's own registered squared and chiseled last
    As the previous picture showed, Clifford's last has more of a chiseled appearance...but I have now realized this might be because his toe box is taller. G&G's TG73 also has a chiseled toe too...just not as much as Clifford's because their toe box height is a bit smaller....although still roomy in my experience

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  14. banis

    banis Senior member

    Messages:
    826
    Likes Received:
    165
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Location:
    Moscow, Russia
    No, he did not.
    I also had a problem when sending him message.
    Just re-type it and not copy. It will work.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by