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Investment Banker/Private Equity work and casual attire

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by oilgasBF, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. oilgasBF

    oilgasBF New Member

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    I have been going through this website for a few weeks now and getting somewhat of a start up closet for my profession I'm beginning in a few weeks time.

    I have read al ot of post about the IB work attire but those posts are back in 2010 time frame.

    Would anyone take the time on helping me build my closet and what to wear for this profession and life style?

    The job will be in Dallas TX and not NYC.

    I have about $5,000 budgeted for both the business side and for the night life scene as well.

    Any pointers or run downs on brands, colors, types, ect would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. aravenel

    aravenel Senior member

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    Night life scene? You're going to be working 100 hours a week, your nightlife scene is going to be Excel in your cube.

    As for what you wear to work, I will point you here:

    http://www.styleforum.net/a/how-should-i-start-my-business-wardrobe

    Only you can answer how formal the office is, i.e. whether you will wear suits every day.

    Also, just because those threads are from 2010 doesn't make them any less relevant.
     
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  3. oilgasBF

    oilgasBF New Member

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    Thank you.

    Although I will be working alot. My office, apartment, and the main bars in uptown are all in a 2 mile radius. So I will be able to hit some night like along the way
     
  4. Willin

    Willin Senior member

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    Protip - keep a spare clean white/blue shirt and tie in your desk in case you strike it rich at night and don't make it home before work beckons the next day.

    Come to think of it you should make it a blue shirt because in the event that you have a long night and show up hungover the next day the white shirt is only going to enhance your paleness.
     
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  5. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Senior member

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    Wear something that doesn't show dip and coffee stains.

    Also, as a general piece of life advice, never use acronyms like "IB," "PE," or "M&A" in real life.
     
  6. asdf

    asdf Senior member

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    Or "i-banking." Shudder.


    As for attire, cities are drastically different these days. Offices in NYC, Toronto, and London remain generally the most formal (although New York is starting to slip.) Houston and San Francisco, in my experience, are VERY casual... No experience in Dallas. It, of course, varies by firm and by group as well.
     
  7. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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  8. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    so true
     
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  9. Flake

    Flake Senior member

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    Unless you are speaking to an Alot, I would add a space after the a. (google: alot hyperbole and a half for reference)

    Seriously, in Houston today. Firms here are very relaxed for dress. Don't know about Dallas.
     
  10. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Why? IB I can sorta get, but PE and M&A (especially) are very common acronyms, that even regular business magazines often use.
     
  11. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Because it makes you sound like a giant doucher.
     
  12. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Oh right, saying commonly used finance terms makes one a douche. And, lest the kids forget, all people who work on Wall Street are evil!
     
  13. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    Button down with slacks and north face fleece vest/jacket is already pretty formal for SF, especially compared to the urban woodsmen/startup douchebags from SOMA or Mission.

    Regardless, you need two suits for road shows and client meetings.

    p.s., you should worry about your job security if you have a night life as a first year analyst.
     
  14. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    not evil; douchey
     
  15. bourbonbasted

    bourbonbasted Senior member

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    I've never met anyone that abbreviates their job/position that has been a person I'd like to spend any extended period of time with. To my thinking, the same guy that brags about being in "PE" will also abbreviate the name of his boutique firm that no one has ever heard of. Experience is my only real guide for that statement.

    Not being in finance myself, I suppose it's a bit more annoying to me. However, all my most successful finance and banking friends say they are either in finance or banking. If someone wants to know more then they'll tell them. But coming out of the gate with abbreviations is a bit douchey (at least IMO).
     
  16. mcbrown

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    "M&A" is an acceptable abbreviation, and IMO the preferred non-douchey way of referring to "mergers and acquisitions". The only circumstances in which I have seen or heard the non-abbreviated version are in the press or in marketing/recruiting documents.

    "IB" is only used by clueless college students and campus career offices.

    "PE" is somewhere in between.
     
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  17. mcbrown

    mcbrown Senior member

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    I wasn't aware that there was an investment banking "lifestyle". Please describe.


    That is pretty much the subject matter of this entire forum. Please report back if you find the answers so that the rest of us can stop searching for them.
     
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  18. Quadcammer

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    love the snark, but this is really very simple:

    formal:

    navy or charcoal suits: solids first, then stripes...leave out the POW and glenplaid
    white or blue shirts: solids first, stripes later. contrast collars...fuck no, you're not gordon gekko
    ties: muted, navys, burgundy, dark green, grey, etc
    shoes: dark brown and black if you must. possibly walnut on a saturday when you're dragging your ass to work:

    Nightlife: Pajamas...you think you're going out? lol

    Business Casual:

    navy (sue me SF) and grey trousers. 4 season worsted for summer, regular worsted for spring/fall, flannel for winter. dark charcoal, mid grey, etc are required. Black wouldn't hurt i guess but I'd never wear black odd trousers.
    Chinos of various colors
    variety of shirts...checks, stripes, gingham, etc. Don't get stupid and get asininely bright colors. No french cuffs unless you routinely wear SCs/Blazers
    SC/Blazer...Navy, some browns, I don't mind gray (sue me SF), etc. You can get into some herringbone, houndstooth, POW, glen plaid, etc.
    shoes...loafers, brown bluchers, various brown oxfords. black if you must. Can possibly throw in some double monks.

    Nightlife: your retainer...for when you're sleeping for 3 hours before you have to wake up again.

    Casual:

    Uh, jeans and shit???????

    nightlife: uh, jeans and shit????????
     
  19. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    Someone needs to come to terms with their own issues. I have no idea how 'M&A' can be construed as 'douchey'.
     
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  20. CousinDonuts

    CousinDonuts Senior member

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    :lol:


    If you're walking to the bar on your way home, then you can play the "hey look everyone, it is midninght I'm still wearing my suit and my tie has been undone for TWO HOURS. I'm an Investment Banker (analyst)"

    Seriously though, go with what Quad said and the what to wear to work thread. As an analyst or associate no one really cares what you look like. Just be presentable and don't stand out for any odd reason. You want to be known for your analysis and pitchbook crafting skills, not "hey who's the kid who wears the kooky socks"? guy. When you make VP and MD and switch to NYC then you can start getting bespoke Zegna shwag.
     
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