Investment Banker/Private Equity work and casual attire

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by oilgasBF, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. mcbrown

    mcbrown Senior member

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    "M&A" is an acceptable abbreviation, and IMO the preferred non-douchey way of referring to "mergers and acquisitions". The only circumstances in which I have seen or heard the non-abbreviated version are in the press or in marketing/recruiting documents.

    "IB" is only used by clueless college students and campus career offices.

    "PE" is somewhere in between.
     
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  2. mcbrown

    mcbrown Senior member

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    I wasn't aware that there was an investment banking "lifestyle". Please describe.


    That is pretty much the subject matter of this entire forum. Please report back if you find the answers so that the rest of us can stop searching for them.
     


  3. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Senior member

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    love the snark, but this is really very simple:

    formal:

    navy or charcoal suits: solids first, then stripes...leave out the POW and glenplaid
    white or blue shirts: solids first, stripes later. contrast collars...fuck no, you're not gordon gekko
    ties: muted, navys, burgundy, dark green, grey, etc
    shoes: dark brown and black if you must. possibly walnut on a saturday when you're dragging your ass to work:

    Nightlife: Pajamas...you think you're going out? lol

    Business Casual:

    navy (sue me SF) and grey trousers. 4 season worsted for summer, regular worsted for spring/fall, flannel for winter. dark charcoal, mid grey, etc are required. Black wouldn't hurt i guess but I'd never wear black odd trousers.
    Chinos of various colors
    variety of shirts...checks, stripes, gingham, etc. Don't get stupid and get asininely bright colors. No french cuffs unless you routinely wear SCs/Blazers
    SC/Blazer...Navy, some browns, I don't mind gray (sue me SF), etc. You can get into some herringbone, houndstooth, POW, glen plaid, etc.
    shoes...loafers, brown bluchers, various brown oxfords. black if you must. Can possibly throw in some double monks.

    Nightlife: your retainer...for when you're sleeping for 3 hours before you have to wake up again.

    Casual:

    Uh, jeans and shit???????

    nightlife: uh, jeans and shit????????
     


  4. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    Someone needs to come to terms with their own issues. I have no idea how 'M&A' can be construed as 'douchey'.
     
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  5. CousinDonuts

    CousinDonuts Senior member

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    :lol:


    If you're walking to the bar on your way home, then you can play the "hey look everyone, it is midninght I'm still wearing my suit and my tie has been undone for TWO HOURS. I'm an Investment Banker (analyst)"

    Seriously though, go with what Quad said and the what to wear to work thread. As an analyst or associate no one really cares what you look like. Just be presentable and don't stand out for any odd reason. You want to be known for your analysis and pitchbook crafting skills, not "hey who's the kid who wears the kooky socks"? guy. When you make VP and MD and switch to NYC then you can start getting bespoke Zegna shwag.
     
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  6. Kroaker

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    Dallas is more formal than Houston or Austin, so suits will probably be the norm. To start, keep it simple: charcoal, navy, mid grey. Get some brown oxford non-square toe shoes. Keep the ties solid and non-loud (grenadine, textured, simple stripes). Navy, Burgundy, Dark Green, Silver/Gray (non-shiny) are best. Don't venture into paisleys or bright colors (if ever) until you know the landscape.
     
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  7. Balfour

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    M&A is okay, tho'.
     


  8. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What did Investment Bankers do before Microsoft Office Suite was invented? (Serious question)
     


  9. bourbonbasted

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    Most of their days were consumed with returning videotapes.
     
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  10. Willin

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    Pencil + paper + spreadsheet + calculator + cocaine.
     


  11. Grammaton Cleric

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    Models were penned by hand on graph paper, copies with fancy borders were made, and inserted in the pitch books.

    Even one small error was absolutely painful to correct. The upside was that your MD couldn't get you to run 20 asinine cases.
     


  12. jrd617

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    Mergers and Acquisitions is not a douchey field, per se. But the way the OP is presenting himself is douchey. As bourbonbasted said, you shouldn't be using these acronymns in everyday conversation. Sounds very self-absorbed.
     


  13. oilgasBF

    oilgasBF New Member

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    Thank you quad and kroaker for answering my questions. I really appreciate it.

    This thread has turned into gold haha.
     


  14. Mattia

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    I generally agree with Quadcammer. Dress like any respectable entry level professional until you are directly responsible for bringing in new clients for your bank. If there is an associate or vice preisdent that is well respected by the senior bankers, study that individual's attire. Once you have a book of business, wear whatever you are comfortable in that won't offend your clients and your boss.

    Regarding the discussion about acronyms used in the finance world, drop them from your vocabulary unless you are only speaking with and can only be heard by others in your trade. Otherwise say you work in finance, and leave it at that. I am an investment banker, and one mistake I see rookies make is acting like they are in some sexy line of work. Investment banking is a service industry. That means you and your boss work for entrepreneurs who make more money than you and have ideas that actually drive the economy and are original. Communicating with acronyms in most industries makes you look like you are self important or out of touch with the way your clients communicate and what they think about. Either circumstance is not good for a career.
     


  15. Audit This

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    ^ Great post Mattia.
     


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