How does one make their tie do THIS?

[atlsart]

This gentleman appears quite frequently on The Sartorialist, and it seems as if all of his ties are sharing the same beautiful affect of bowing out right below the knot and dimples before falling to his shirt and waist. I am aware that a Snap Tab Collar will often create such an affect as this; however this gentleman does not appear to be wearing a Snap Tab Collar on this windsor or other extreme cutaways he typically wears. Therefore, I am left to believe it is a particular method of tying the tie, or even the tie itself which creates this very affect. It seems to me that not a single one of the 3 or 4 knots I have tried have created such an affect as this for me. So in this vain, PLEASE SOMEBODY FILL ME IN!

 

[Roikins]

Originally Posted by atlsart

This gentleman appears quite frequently on The Sartorialist, and it seems as if all of his ties are sharing the same beautiful affect of bowing out right below the knot and dimples before falling to his shirt and waist. I am aware that a Snap Tab Collar will often create such an affect as this; however this gentleman does not appear to be wearing a Snap Tab Collar on this windsor or other extreme cutaways he typically wears. Therefore, I am left to believe it is a particular method of tying the tie, or even the tie itself which creates this very affect. It seems to me that not a single one of the 3 or 4 knots I have tried have created such an affect as this for me. So in this vain, PLEASE SOMEBODY FILL ME IN!

I use the Shelby-Pratt knot and it often sticks out more than "regular" knots, probably because of its twisting. With that said, I've never had it stick out that much. I would suspect that since the man knows his photo is about to be taken, he's pulled the tie out more than usual.

 

[alliswell]

Tiebar underneath the buttoning point of the coat.

 

[Margaret]

Tie-agra.

 

[John Ellis]

Easy. It's the bulk in the tie which is achieved either by the weight of the silk/wool and/or from some additional lining. Bulkier ties enable you to produce a more sculptured knot and the pouter pigeon look this guy has achieved. To be fair I suspect his tie doesn't stay like that all day.

 

[j]

Originally Posted by letmebefell

Tiebar underneath the buttoning point of the coat.
Yep. Easiest way.

 

[Lucky Strike]

Try a four-in-hand (or Pratt) knot with a stiff-ish tie, and a deep dimple. I've had some success. The only certain and lasting method is using a tie bar/tack/pin.

 

[senator1214]

Originally Posted by atlsart

This gentleman appears quite frequently on The Sartorialist, and it seems as if all of his ties are sharing the same beautiful affect of bowing out right below the knot and dimples before falling to his shirt and waist. I am aware that a Snap Tab Collar will often create such an affect as this; however this gentleman does not appear to be wearing a Snap Tab Collar on this windsor or other extreme cutaways he typically wears. Therefore, I am left to believe it is a particular method of tying the tie, or even the tie itself which creates this very affect. It seems to me that not a single one of the 3 or 4 knots I have tried have created such an affect as this for me. So in this vain, PLEASE SOMEBODY FILL ME IN!

Mory is the Man No Doubt

I am usually able to achieve this effect with a high tight fitting collar. The higher the collar sits on the neck the more the tie will protrude. If you don't have the kind of shirt I mentioned but still want to see how the effect is created; (do this without a shirt on) Make what ever knot you prefer around your neck, however try to tighten the tie higher up on your neck next to your Adam's apple(Don't choke yourself). If the tie is tightened lower on your neck the will be no protrusion.

Ties with thicker silk or interlinings will also help. I too find the shelby-prat knot to work best as well, and depending on the tie, a four in hand

Perhaps others will have better Ideas

Good Luck

 

[vitaminc]

Originally Posted by Lucky Strike

Try a four-in-hand (or Pratt) knot with a stiff-ish tie, and a deep dimple. I've had some success. The only certain and lasting method is using a tie bar/tack/pin.

Just to add if you flip your tie backwards (think backward somersault) it could erect the tie knot.

 

[denning]

What I do to achieve this is to begin by tying the tie in whatever knot you want. Then just before you pull it completely tight (it should hang down a few inches), reach through the loop the tie forms in front of your neck and grab the blade of the tie from the back, pull up and through, then repeat or tighten. This creates a twist in the tie under the collar which keeps the knot angled out.

 

[Dragon]

I don`t think he using a tie bar, because it is not necessary at all. You just need reasonable space in between your collar, some height, and a nice tie. It helps if the tie material has some bite, rather than something smooth like silky prints, but even that doesn`t really matter.

 

[Ricardo Malocchio]

Massimo Bizzocchi ties have a button-hole on the loop that can be fastened to your shirt's third button which will create that same effect. I was skeptical, but it works quite well.

 

[Threadbearer]

Originally Posted by Margaret

Tie-agra.
+1
Somebody had to say it.

 

[Manton]

It's probably the thickness/stiffness of the tie lining. Some ties can hold that shape very well because of the lining. I have found that to be the #1 cause.

 

[atlsart]

Originally Posted by Lucky Strike

Try a four-in-hand (or Pratt) knot with a stiff-ish tie, and a deep dimple.

How have you had success effecting the dimple through tying a tie? I've always had to adjust the dimple by hand to achieve my desired result.