Hipster: The Dead End of Western Civilization

[Nil]

Originally Posted by binge

Cheap yes, but never seemed ironic to me. It would be more ironic to drink High-Life.

PBR is terrible, so it's ironic to drink it in such large amounts.

 

[CTGuy]

I actually LIKE cheap beer so I don't really get the irony. I actually think High Life is good and I drank Narragansett before I learned it was on tap for the hipsters.

What's lame is that hipsters are so affected. I tend to do things because I like them and not for effect or because of fashion. Maybe that's not a cool way to live my life, but I have a hard time finding energy for more than that.

 

[Dedalus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauntology

Hauntology is an idea within the philosophy of history introduced by Jacques Derrida in his 1993 work Spectres of Marx. The word, a portmanteau of haunt and ology, and a homophone to ontology in Derrida's native French, deals with "the paradoxical state of the spectre, which is neither being nor non-being", according to a professor at RMIT University. [1] The idea suggests that the present exists only with respect to the past, and that society after the end of history will begin to orient itself towards ideas and aesthetics that are thought of as rustic, bizarre or "old-timey"; that is, towards the "ghost" of the past. In this, it is has some similarity with the cyberpunk literary movement. Derrida holds that because of this intellectual realignment, the end of history will be unsatisfactory and untenable. The name and concept fundamentally come from Marx's assertion that a "spectre is haunting Europe, the spectre of communism." Derrida holds that the spirit of Karl Marx is even more relevant after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and the demise of communism, that the West's separation from the ignorance of the suffering still present in the world will "haunt" it and provide the impetus for a fresh interest in communism. The idea of hauntology has been criticised by a number of philosophers including Jurgen Habermas and Richard Rorty.

 

[Saucemaster]

**** irony, when I drink PBR it's because I can get a can of PBR and a shot of Jim Beam for $3 at a few of the dive bars here in Philly. If I step it up to just Jameson and a Yeungling, I'm looking at $7-10.

 

[DeadDJ]

Originally Posted by Tarmac

Soo, adbusters is trying to criticize someone for being too ironic? Adbusters? STFU
+1. As much as I dislike hipsters (I went through fun phase of it for 2 months, got bored and annoyed), this article has to be one of the most pretentious things I've ever read.

I was in an airport store and read it. I re-read it to make sure it wasn't some next-level sarcasm. It's like smack addicts talking **** to alcoholics, or that guy in Half Baked that's pissed off at the pot smoker (You ever suck dick for weed?!). Yeah hipsters are annoying but hipsters with glossy mags are just as stupid.

 

[Willsw]

 

[unpainted huffheinz]

I recall the hip resurgence of PBR after the immortal words of Frank in 'Blue Velvet': Heineken? **** that ****! Pabst Blue Ribbon!

I don't know how many hipsters have seen that film though. Maybe there is irony of liking a beer because of it was made hip in a film released before you were born. That would imply a knowledge of film rather than the low context, flattened world of YouTube clips though.

 

[Brian SD]

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

You're probably right. But for hipsters, anything with a touch of the blue collar is deemed ironic.

Ummm... no?

I suppose that many people would consider the people I hang out with to be hipsters, based on the locations we frequent, the bars we drink at, the music we listen to and the houses we party at, but no one ever drank PBR because it's 'ironic,' or 'blue collar.' I always drank PBR cause it's cheap as hell. We used to find 12 packs at the 99¢ store. I never label myself as a hipster, but I was actually told by a girl once, "don't bring your friends to this bar, it's cool right now and we don't want it to blow up with hipsters." So I guess I qualify here.

And people I know who dress really scene all did that because of the bands they admire, like New York Dolls the Ramones. Anyone who claims that's any different than admiring and following Steve McQueen, Marlon Brando, Cary Grant, Anne Hathaway, etc. are full of ****.

 

[j]

I drink PBR because it's tolerable and usually the cheapest beer I can stomach. I prefer High Life if it is available, because it tastes slightly better, and is actually a bit cheaper in cans. Olympia is also better but much less available than either of the others.

I don't think many people actually drink PBR for the "image", especially because there is no image except that it's an American beer that isn't associated with football Bros like Bud/Light/Coors/any of those other ones or taste like total crap like Milwaukee's Beast/Schlitz/Anything with animals on the box.

 

[dusty]

Originally Posted by Brian SD

"don't bring your friends to this bar, it's cool right now and we don't want it to blow up with hipsters."

 

[Guy Burgess]

Originally Posted by Willsw

this article is hilarious

 

[West24]

ive had some pretty good time with some "hipster" type people. just dont get into politics and other random crap with them. the **** i cant stand is this one girl my friend is friends with. shes a try hard hipster, and i was just calling her out on her hypocrisy crap. she made sure to tell us shes a vegan, yet ate lux on a cream cheese bagel because she said, "theres something to be said for quality of life" yeh **** off! then we got into an argument because she was complaining how her neighbours were watering the lawn for too long, yet she was just talking about how she loved taking long showers. god i hate those type of hipsters.

 

[binge]

The reason I mentioned High Life is because I think it's a good beer in its price range. It's also a good warm-weather beer and it's one of my go-to beers for hot spring and summer days. To me, drinking High Life is ironic because it's actually good.

Do people really like it that much more than similarly priced beers? I too was a broke college student and we bought beer based primarily on price and drank our fair share of Black Label, Beast, Natty Light. At the time PBR was just another brand in a multitude of pretty crappy, cheap beers.

The reason I associate PBR with hipsters is because I don't think I really saw it served in any bar in San Francisco up until a few years ago when it suddenly appeared everywhere. You'd go to a bar like Lucky 13 and suddenly they had PBR specials and tons of hipster-looking 20-somethings would all be sipping on PBR sporting a trucker hat and super-low-rise black skinny jeans. PBR was just part of the uniform.

It also seemed that PBR fit the hipster cliche because it was one of these lesser-known, slightly off the beaten path brands that would kinda make you seem "in the know" by drinking it. I could just as easily imagine Hamms, Olympia, Raineer (RIP!), or Iron City being the hipster beer of choice.

 

[LabelKing]

I don't drink beer of any sort, but I, however, appreciate their general thiness.

I also have a fondness for remixes of hits of yesteryear.

 

[Dedalus]

I once met a hipster that drank O'Doul's for extra irony.