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H&M x Lanvin Collaboration

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Wupper, Sep 2, 2010.

  1. atuhsad

    atuhsad Senior member

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    While the fabrics and construcition wont be anywhere near the Lanvin level, i highly doubt they will be garbage given that H&M has economies of scale working in their favor. I remember reading an article on the collab Isabel and Ruben Toledo did with target, which included a line of towels or something. They indicated that if they made the towels themselves, with their resources and buying power, using the same fabrics, it would have cost $500 a towel as opposed to whatever target sold them for. Granted, that may be a bit of an exageration on their part RE the $500, but I think that it proves a point. If H&M plans on charging a premium for these items, the only realy way to justify it is using better fabrics and construction (the Lanvin name premium / markup will only go so far). If they produced H&M quality and charged H&M x Lanvin prices (whatever that markup is), but the product was on the same level as their normal stuff, they would get ripped in the press and Lanvin would suffer as well.
     
  2. brad-t

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    I dunno, the Jimmy Choo stuff was pretty shit and there didn't seem to be negative fallback from that. The bag I bought was like $270 CAD and a few months of wear showed that it isn't even worth that.
     
  3. bryanayrb

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    the cdg x h&m stuff was shit quality. rather buy cheap korean knockoff clothes for cheaper.. polka dots x drop crotch jawns zzz

    the only thing i didn't resell for profit (sup fobby mainlanders) was the peacoat cause it was cut incredibly well and the material wasn't that bad
     
  4. canstyleace

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    I dunno, the Jimmy Choo stuff was pretty shit and there didn't seem to be negative fallback from that. The bag I bought was like $270 CAD and a few months of wear showed that it isn't even worth that.

    the cdg x h&m stuff was shit quality. rather buy cheap korean knockoff clothes for cheaper.. polka dots x drop crotch jawns zzz

    +1

    I was at the last one the first day and closely examined the jimmy choo collab leather rider jacket, retail was $300 and the quality/price ratio just wasnt there, the leather felt like shit and stitching was sloppy details looked cheap, etc, etc.

    I remember even one of the mens bags looked like it was made with thick ass shinny pleather, not worth the lines/wait that are required the even get the stuff imho.
     
  5. ma1

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    its lanvin, i dont give a shit if the quality is h&m, if it looks like lanvin im copping that shit
     
  6. Desi

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    the cdg x h&m stuff was shit quality. rather buy cheap korean knockoff clothes for cheaper.. polka dots x drop crotch jawns zzz the only thing i didn't resell for profit (sup fobby mainlanders) was the peacoat cause it was cut incredibly well and the material wasn't that bad
    There always will be one piece that outshines the other lesser quality pieces. for V&R it was the peacoat while the sweatshirt suffered. I only wish for the same good ratio that +J has with Uniqlo. But even if Alber and Lucas get H&M to bend and do something like that, what hits the floor may be different and could result in another Karl for H&M fiasco. Choo was just a mess for men simply because they didn't design with him in mind.
     
  7. Listi

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    its lanvin, i dont give a shit if the quality is h&m, if it looks like lanvin im copping that shit
    ^^ I pay money for H&M shit that looks like H&M, why not pay money for H&M shit that looks like fuckin' Lanvin?
     
  8. dwyhajlo

    dwyhajlo Senior member

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    ^^

    I pay money for H&M shit that looks like H&M, why not pay money for H&M shit that looks like fuckin' Lanvin?


    That's a pretty big "if".
     
  9. Listi

    Listi Senior member

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    Sure, but may as well hope.
     
  10. HRoi

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    great. Armani Exchange 2010.
     
  11. KitAkira

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    It's like when Toyota started Scion to lure in younger buyers that would hopefully buy Toyotas as they got older. Most younger people have probably never heard of Lanvin so now they will know the name and hopefully become Lanvin buyers in the future.
    As it was said by Tom Ford, H&M shoppers are not high fashion shoppers. Lanvin isn't going to convert anyone. If you look at who's most excited for this, it's primarily habitual H&M shoppers, not Lanvin shoppers.
    While the fabrics and construcition wont be anywhere near the Lanvin level, i highly doubt they will be garbage given that H&M has economies of scale working in their favor. I remember reading an article on the collab Isabel and Ruben Toledo did with target, which included a line of towels or something. They indicated that if they made the towels themselves, with their resources and buying power, using the same fabrics, it would have cost $500 a towel as opposed to whatever target sold them for. Granted, that may be a bit of an exageration on their part RE the $500, but I think that it proves a point. If H&M plans on charging a premium for these items, the only realy way to justify it is using better fabrics and construction (the Lanvin name premium / markup will only go so far). If they produced H&M quality and charged H&M x Lanvin prices (whatever that markup is), but the product was on the same level as their normal stuff, they would get ripped in the press and Lanvin would suffer as well.
    Quality won't even be in the same dimension as Lanvin.
     
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    ^ A Xenox in the making. You may want to keep those strong opinions to yourself or blunt the edges a bit until you have some idea what you're talking about.

    On topic though when do we see this? I haven't been keeping track but will admit it piques curiosity.
     
  14. KitAkira

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    What snobs! This makes perfect sense. H&M is by far the most stylish of the mass-market retailers, and their cuts, designs, and fabrics (even if it's just the 'look' of the fabrics) perfectly replicate high fashion. I always hear people complain about the quality of H&M, but I've never found it problematic. If you're buying the LOGG or DIVIDED brands, which are intended for frat boys and teenage boys respectively, why are you expecting high fashion? (But still probably they're designed with the intention of surviving a frat boy and teenager.) But their "H&M" line stuff to me has a perfect fit, and maintains the "new" look for a long time. If you wash the clothes and don't put them in the dryer (and don't wash jeans unless you fell in a mud puddle), and then iron them, they're perfectly fine garments. I'd say their fits/styles are much better than, say, ZARA (whose shirts always scratch my skin), and much better than GAP and even supposedly classier mid-level retailers like Club Monaco and Banana Republic. I'd go so far as to say I'd rather shop at H&M than Acne. And what is this criticizing Lanvin for wanting to collaborate with H&M? Clearly they see a big name retailer that actually cares about fashion. It's like Lagerfeld"”he doesn't hold poorer people in contempt. He wants them to be able to enjoy fashion as well. (And oftentimes the poorer ones have much more style and creativity.) And for the person who invoked YSL, he himself would never be so snobbish to denigrate H&M"”he himself started the Rive Gauche stores, said perfect style was a black turtleneck and a blazer, and wished that he had invented the blue jean.
    Typed out a long response to this and decided it's not worth it. Lurk moar
     
  15. Prada_Ferragamo

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    Another sockpuppet in the making.
     
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  17. nativebelle

    nativebelle Well-Known Member

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    How dare somebody challenge SF groupthink! For shame.
     
  18. DLester

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    How dare somebody challenge SF groupthink! For shame.

    this was the part that got me. "perfectly replicate?" do not agree:

    H&M . . . cuts, designs, and fabrics (even if it's just the 'look' of the fabrics) perfectly replicate high fashion.
     
  19. AR_Six

    AR_Six Senior member

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    How dare somebody challenge SF groupthink! For shame.
    Notice how it's always the people with under 100 posts who, utterly unable to puzzle this shit out for themselves, come to the conclusion that the only possible explanation is "SF Groupthink"?
     
  20. nativebelle

    nativebelle Well-Known Member

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    this was the part that got me. "perfectly replicate?" do not agree:

    I understand that the post was flawed in a lot of ways, but I don't understand why everybody took a post that was at the very least cohesive and well-intentioned as an opportunity to point and laugh (and pat themselves on the back).
     

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