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Gaziano bespoke v.s. Santoni FAM

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To all you shoe lovers, please help. I am in the process of upgrading my shoe collection. In the past few weeks I've added two pair of chocolate tie ups, the Domenico Vacca/Stefano Bi cap toes that were on sale and the Kiton perforated/medallion wholecuts.

I'm now considering adding either one pair of Gaziano bespokes (and have scheduled an appointment with "the great one" during his west coast swing) or two pair of Santoni FAMs. My current choices are between a chestnut pair of Gaziano's Wiltshire model (from his new catalog) or the new Santoni FAM monkstraps (in a medium brown) and the Santoni 6239s (which are listed as "tan" but look quite orangy).

If faced with these choices, which would you choose -- the two pair of Santoni FAMs or the single pair of Gaziano bespokes, and why? Your thoughts and input will be most appreciated.
 

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I would try the Gaziano personally as I love the new styles but I'm a big fan of my Baird FAMs. My suspicion is that Tony probably is at a higher quality level given his background but I don't know for sure.

It may depend on what's in your closet...ie. do you need two shoes in this instance or is having one very high quality, fairly unique shoe more appealing?

If the latter then Gaziano. Just my two cents...
 

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I have to say that I was disappointed in the G&G catalog. I found the styling to be very middle of the road. While I am sure the workmanship is beyond reproach, there is nothing in there that jumps out at me. The Italians seem to be willing to take a lot more risks with their shoes and henceforth come out with a lot more home runs (and a lot more strikeouts too). For a small boutique shop, the G&G offerings are very "corporate".
 

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For a small boutique shop, the G&G offerings are very "corporate".
Interesting, I guess we have different views. I thought the Astaire was very stylish...I may be biased by the extreme corporate environs I work in. Anything outside the Park Avenue seems flashy some days to some people...
 

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Or you can order G&G MTO which, according to Manton, is only £450, a very reasonable price.
 

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How does MTO differ from bespoke, and are the same models available in MTO?
 

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The models shown in the GG catalog are the MTO (made-to-order) models, which are made on standard lasts, just like how other RTW shoes are made.

You can get anything you want if you go bespoke: one of the MTO models done on your custom last, which is made specifically for each of your feet, or something completely different than anything in the catalog. But bespoke is about 3x more expensive, and takes even longer to finish, for the first order.

--Andre
 

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Got it; thanks.
 

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I am biased as I have a closet full of really good RTW shoes and realize I need at least one bespoke shoe. And in a relatively middle of the road corporate style cause I expect it will quickly become my favorite shoe. Or at least I would expect it to.

Are you meeting him in SF? We should do a GTG around his trip as I will be flying in from Phoenix.

Perry
 

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Yes, in SF on Friday the 13th (not sure that's a good sign, but I'm of sturdy stock). When are you scheduled?
 

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I have an appointment with Tony at 9:30AM on Saturday. I'll be flying in late Friday night (landing around 8PM) if anyone wants to get together.

Tony says that his Japanese visits turn into parties for his clients as they bring drinks, and hang out and chat with each other for hours while he measures clients.

--Andre
 

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Originally Posted by edmorel
I have to say that I was disappointed in the G&G catalog. I found the styling to be very middle of the road. While I am sure the workmanship is beyond reproach, there is nothing in there that jumps out at me. The Italians seem to be willing to take a lot more risks with their shoes and henceforth come out with a lot more home runs (and a lot more strikeouts too). For a small boutique shop, the G&G offerings are very "corporate".

I think the problem may be more with the photographs than with the shoes. The photos appear to make the shoes seem shorter/less substantial that (I imagine) they are and don't show off the fine leather/soles/construction and undoubtedly sexy curves we know the shoes have (but have a hard time seeing). I prefer the EG catalog's approach to photographs.
 

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Vass U Last or more Kiton.
 

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