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There is no "too young" for a vest. Â Okay, maybe 12. The problem is that some people get offended when they think young people are dressing "above their station" or age. Â This is a huge problem in certain industries. Â A lot of people I know are in I-banking, both in New York and on the West Coast. Â Some of these are pretty testosterone heavy guys. Â Frat-huns, rubgy players, weight lifters, guys who like to fight and who know how. Â Not ones to shrink from much of anything. Â Yet they were horrified of violating the Wall Street dress code. Â They would see me after work or what not in my 3-piece suit, suede shoes, pocket hank, etc. and profess admiration. Â And I would say, "Hey, man, you make 3, 4, 5 times more money than I do. Â I can take you where you need to go to get rigged out." Â And they would say, "No, I can't, won't work," or whatever. Â Only once did one of them, late at night after a lot of booze, break down and explain it all to me. Â I'll bet we have I-bankers on the forum who can confirm or dispute what I say. Â Having never been in the industry, I can't judge the truth of it for myself. Â I just pass along what I have heard. Anyway, this problem is only a problem insofar as it's a problem. Â Which is a snarky way of saying, if no one cares, you'll be fine. Â I have always dressed like a bit of a dandy, ever since I went out into the wide world, and so far as I know it's never caused me a problem. Â I suppose it could have caused me problems I don't know about, but then I'll never know, so who cares.I am 30. Â Is that too young for a vest? Â I like the conservative, tight appearance it gives a suit. Â Why would people not like that? Â I think it looks clean and professional, it seems more disciplined and formal than without. Â I often wonder if it is appropriate for business however.
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Oh, Lord no. Â I can sew on a button, and that's about it.Manton, do you do bespoke tailoring? Â You are a Saville Row tailor right?
Size. That tie looks like pretty thick silk, with a heavy lining. Prince Albery knots are usually used to make thinnish ties tie bigger knots, so that they look more normal.Manton, one other thing... (sorry to harass ya), you said that tie did not need a Prince Albert knot. Â Does that have to do with the style or color of the tie or something?
More than that, it is required.
No. From the notorious "black suit" thread:manton, that was a joke, right?
My God, man. Have you missed this thread? http://66.170.193.77/cgi-bin....09;st=0 To summarize: it is "required" according to the "rules". It is not required for staying out of jail, gaining entry into heaven, or maintaining good character.I understand there are rules, customs, etc... but it is not required to follow them.
Wasn't there some pithy little reference over there (somewhere between pages 10 and 40) to faith ... and your denial of any religious connection thereto? In whom is that there, above here, in the paragraph just prior to this paragraph, you are seeking solace?My God, man. Have you missed this thread?