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mr. kabbaz,

that thread's 47 pages long. i've skimmed through a few of manton's posts and it just seems to me that he's a guy who cares about rules and makes decisions based on them. that's fine, but when a newbie comes on the board and asks a newbie question like, "is it okay to button this or button that", i think we should stress that while there may be rule or custom concerning this, ultimately it is you suit, your image, your life, etc... and as long as you are comfortable and confident with what you're wearing and how you're wearing it, that's all that matters.
 

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I just wanted to know what the rule was. Thank you Manton very much for the input, as well as Kabbaz.

How did they come up with the rule about the bottom jacket button? That one seems strange to me. I've just always been kind of curious about that rule.

The belt and shoe rule is obvious, as is matching metal. But I never have understood the practical reason for leaving one's lower jacket button undone. Is it so the jacket will hang better when you move around?
 

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No. It's so HMS Bertie can eat a big lunch.

Edit: Linux_Pro: Not meaning to be flippant. Been a long day. Manton's detailed explanation for this appears elsewhere in, I believe, this thread. But it could be the OTHER thread and I would not wish upon my worst enemy having to locate a piece of information somewhere in there.
I hear j may be hiring someone from the Library of Congress to compile a Linked Table of Contents for THAT thread. Should take 10-12 months to complete.
 

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The belt and shoe rule is obvious, as is matching metal.  But I never have understood the practical reason for leaving one's lower jacket button undone.  Is it so the jacket will hang better when you move around?
I don't know if that's the purpose for the rule, but that is the effect. A typical SB jacket looks terrible with the bottom button done.
 

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I've skimmed through a few of manton's posts and it just seems to me that he's a guy who cares about rules and makes decisions based on them. that's fine, but when a newbie comes on the board and asks a newbie question like, "is it okay to button this or button that", i think we should stress that while there may be rule or custom concerning this, ultimately it is you suit, your image, your life, etc... and as long as you are comfortable and confident with what you're wearing and how you're wearing it, that's all that matters.
For the record, I do write that, or something like it, all the time. Do I have to write it every time I post?
 

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I don't think you should always have to state the disclaimer Manton. If someone doesn't realize they have a choice, that is really pathetic, and they're probably too dumb to figure out how to use a computer and get here in the first place.
 

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I wish we had good bespoke tailors here in Seattle
I second the nomination of Gian DeCaro. Very complimentary article on his shop back in the late '90s in GQ. Also made Bruce Boyer's famous Town & Country bespoke tailors article/directory. Disclaimer: Claims to dress a few MSoft guys including you-know-who. When I asked Gian about ykw's tendency to look like he fell off the turnip truck, he replied that said gentleman's handlers insist on it. Perhaps he spends less time in federal court for monopolistic business practices that way. (Praying my XP doesn't crash as I write this). Â
 

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Mr. Mystery is of the Lakeside Alumni crowd, all of whom seem to maintain a rather understated or humble appearance. I think it is the local style. Someone told me that Mr. Mystery drove a standard BMW 3-class sedan until just a few years ago, and didn't have any personal security. That changed after the pie incident in Germany. I think he just tries to maintain some image of simple normalcy, although I have no idea. I do know they all seem to work hard at looking plain.
 

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(linux_pro @ Feb. 11 2005,20:42) Manton, do you do bespoke tailoring? Â You are a Saville Row tailor right?
Oh, Lord no. Â I can sew on a button, and that's about it.
What about your tailoring firm "Thomas Manton"? or was it "Chittleborough & Manton"?
 

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What about your tailoring firm "Thomas Manton"?  or was it "Chittleborough & Manton"?
Every garment is outsourced to a potato sack maker in Rochester, NY. Floor price for a two-piece suit: $8,500. Plus, it's MTM, not true bespoke. You get what you pay for.
 

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Manton, I think I asked you this once before but never got an answer: Did you take your "handle" from the famous old English gunmaker Joe Manton--probably the leading maker of fowling pieces in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, also made some fine duelling pistols? The firm was carried on by "Young Joe," but you don't hear much if anything about it after its glory days. There was later Manton of Calcutta in the glory days of the British Raj, but I don't know what the family connection, if any, was to the original gunmaker.
 

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Sorry, I missed it the first time. No to all of the above.
 

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M. Nicholas Antongiovanni (I am sure that I am butchering this, but can't find that darned reading list quickly enough...). It's a shortened version of first and last name.
 

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