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Fly fishing

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by lefty, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    You guys are lucky over there the guiding is a lot cheaper and accessible. Here a guide is generally around $800-$1000 for a full day and most of them still do it tough, mainly because there just isn't the population of anglers for them to be working say 200 days a year in the open season. Most of them need alternative income to survive, many have online/B&M stores selling fly fishing stuff to supplement there wages.
     
  2. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    Yes, and over here most of our rivers are accessible to the public. In Oregon, any "navigable" stream is open to the high water mark even if private property runs right up to the river bank.

    Canberra...are your rivers divided up into "beats" that are strictly private as in much of England, Ireland and Scotland? I assume that in such places part of the guiding fee is the "rental"/lease of these beats. Not cheap by any means.
     
  3. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    $1K for a day of fishing without accommodation is insane. You can easily get into 1-2K per day at a lodge, but in some cases that includes bush planes or helicopters into the back country. Luckily, here in the NE guides are less than 300/dy and as DW pointed out there is a lot of public water.

    CW, is NZ as expensive?

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  4. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    All of our water is public as well, same as you as long as you don't go over the high water mark and access it from public land like a bridge or seek permission from the owners (usually farmers here in Australia).

    The high cost is mainly just economies of scale, our population is very minor compared to the US so not as many fly fisherman in general and even less willing to pay for guides, so the prices reflect it. Often it includes accommodation for multi day trips but these are usually basic huts and not lodges.

    NZ is about the same price as a trip to Tasmania usually and we don't need a visa to visit, and being a 3 hour flight it makes it very accessible.
     
  5. mikeman

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    This is completely random, but since this is a "style" forum I thought it was mildly relevant.

    Anyhow, I have noticed that style wise, that there are three types of fly fishers.

    1) Classic- vest, fishing shirt, creel (kind joking there), But I think you get the picture
    2) Sportsman- The guys who head to the river in all camouflage.
    3)New age- The guys who like all the cool technical gear (think patagonia and simms)

    Do you guys tend to agree? I personally fit in the "new age" category.
     
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  6. lefty

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    A lot of this depends on where and how you fish. You can fish easy and slow rivers in pretty much anything - I met a guy in plus fours once - but if I'm hiking in and the water's rough I use technical gear. Or a mix. My hat is a beat up fedora and my wading staff is an old broom handle, but I use a Fishpond chest pack, Simms waders, and decent Orvis boots.

    Sometimes it is nice to just pick up a rod, some tippet and a couple of flies, and just go fishing.

    lefty
     
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  7. mikeman

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    Totally Agree. I generally end up bringing my waist pack with everywhere though, as I'm diabetic and have to carry some supplies...
     
  8. DWFII

    DWFII Bespoke Boot and Shoemaker Dubiously Honored

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    I have an Orvis sling pack (which rides between my shoulder blade or maybe a little lower) but if I could figure out some way to leave water and energy bar and flybox and raincoat behind, I'd do away with even that.

    I have and use good equipment...boots waders,etc....but when you're spey casting you don't want much of anything out in front of you (on the chest or abdomen) because it impedes the action of the bottom hand in the forward casting stroke. That's why a lot of folks have gone to lanyards that have tippet spools and nippers and floatant (and often brightly coloured beads) attached.

    No offense to anyone who likes them, but, personally, I just can't come to terms with wearing a necklace and I don't like the idea of all that clatter and stuff around my neck.
     
  9. lefty

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    I think one of the harder things to do is pare down on the water. I tend to bring to much stuff.

    Also not a fan of the lanyard. I do like like the chest pack as I can drop the neck strap and wear it as a waist pack.

    lefty
     
  10. Henry Carter

    Henry Carter Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Yeah I've just got a chest pack too and prefer it a lot more than my vest. FWIW i'm more of a technical guy too. My trout fishing tends to be done in either freezing cold or boiling hot and I try to dress to be as comfortable as possible.
     
  11. mikeman

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    I have a lanyard that I purchased from some ladies on eBay. While they may look a bit ridiculous, they are nice for the minimal/ short outing days.
    Hold just the essentials.
    Nippers, tippit, floatant, and some flies.
     
  12. mikeman

    mikeman Senior member

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    Looks like a pretty cool film. Maybe its just the "Inception" score in the background.
    [VIDEO][/VIDEO]
     
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  13. lefty

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    That is quite a fancy lanyard. I think those look to be a bit much. I have something like this... but mine has a place for tippet spools.
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    This is a pretty good 6-part series on trout fishing. Solid info from a guy that looks a lot like Letterman.


    lefty
     
  16. edinatlanta

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    So what do you recommend I do to learn? Like, I can't really afford guides, my buddy who was teaching me to fly fish probably won't be able to get out too much this year, I could afford a guide like, once. There's a club here but I didn't really like hanging out with them too much (it was huge and they were ALL buddy-buddy so I never like could start talking to people). I have waders.
     
  17. lefty

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    What is it you feel you're lacking? Line control? Presentation? Reading water? A lot of this is time on water, so you have to get out there.

    Is there a stocking program near you? Those fish are usually easily caught and will give you a lot of experience with the hook set and landing fish.

    Check out the club as they may have beginner fish outs.

    Join an online forum and look for guys near you that may offer to take you out.

    Ask at the local fly shop - a lot of them organize trips for novices.

    lefty
     
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    All of it :embar: :satisfied: :eek:

    There's a really good shop here, I'll pop in and see what they say
     
  19. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    Watch the video I just posted.

    lefty
     
  20. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    Always hated the way these things crimp my leaders - maybe this is an answer?


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