Dear Employees: Please be advised that the Thanksgiving Holiday Weekend has been cancelled.

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by zarathustra, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. Maximator

    Maximator Senior member

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    You should be thankful that you're not in China. Here it's 1000 times worse, although here it's with credit card debt, and not student loans. People here have no fiscal control at all. Having a total debt (stemming from over-consumption, not buying property etc) equaling several YEARS worth of salary isn't that uncommon. Now, given the price vs salary ratio, this is actually pretty easy to achieve, but still. People here have NO idea what fiscal responsibility means(or any kind of responsibility for that matter).

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  2. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I was referring to Americans (of which I am one). I think you may have misunderstood my gripe. I wasn't referring to debt; people are more than welcome to incur all the dumb debt they want.

    It was the sense of entitlement that a lot of people of my generation seem to have, that and a lack of discipline. Gen X has the same problem but nowhere near this degree. A lot of us seem to expect good things to happen to us NOW and intend on putting in the hard work LATER. I don't know if it's coddling by Baby Boomer parents or what. But it's disgusting.

    Again, not all of this generation is like this. It does appear, however, to be one of our most defining traits.

    As far as Asia goes...I know South Koreans of a similar age don't share this problem. They may be fiscally irresponsible, but they don't for a second believe they deserve what the world gives them just for being born. They work and work hard (though not always efficiently). I'd be surprised if the Chinese, perhaps excepting an entitled elite, were the same. Such sentiment seems to be generally found in countries which are several generations into development, and it is particularly bad in the US because our individualism has led to an "everybody is special" mentality.
     
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    PLUS FUKKIN ONE!
     


  4. zarathustra

    zarathustra Senior member

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    Turns out that she was told to advise everyone about this a few days after the storm hit. Our offices were without phones and consistent internet for several days. I was eventually able to get us stable and hobbling along Thursday or Friday after the storm. At that point the call was made by managment to encourage people to work given the anticipated losses were growing rapidly. There are enough single people and guys who hate their wives that even light days would give a bump and soften the blow.

    As it turned out her encouragment to people to stay home and "be safe" (in her emails to employees who were trying to make it into the office but would be late) made a big difference. As it turns out now, my numbers show that we are down 35-40% in hours from projections and collections have slowed dramatically. As management suspected, we need those hours.

    She purpose chose not to tell anyone in October and not issue the memo, presumably thinking that she was entitled to the days off and hoped that managment would reverse course. She has a very friendly ear in one of the senior partners and sent him to plead her case yesterday before sending the email. It did not go over too well... hence the internal discord yesterday.

    All issues and complaints are now being referred to her to deal with. One would presume she would show some compassion since she is largely to blame-- nope. She then tells people she has pre-existing plans for Friday and as such she will not be coming in. Finally, she has the chutzpah to then tell everyone how she intends to use her remaining sick days and vacation days for the remainder of the year.

    REALLY?
     
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  5. Thomas

    Thomas Senior member

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    Good luck with that, man. I think that once they play the narrative that The Man is unfair and against them, it's easy to play the victim to everyone - mommy and daddy included. I tend to think that mommy and daddy are the problems in allowing every excuse to fly and never holding them accountable. It's a huge struggle, particularly when they're all in their echo chamber.
     
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  6. zarathustra

    zarathustra Senior member

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    I agree. I fear for my children. My parents were always told me there was going to be a day when baby bird gets pushed out of the nest. Lucky for me, I learned to fly early.

    I know I am going to be the same with my kids. I just wonder how I will deal with the looks and comments from others.
     
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  7. Harold falcon

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    Wait, she's telling everyone else to work but she's taking the day off? Is she for real?

    Damn, I'd hate to see what happens to her office when she's out enjoying the post-Thanksgiving hangover on Friday. It would be a real shame if someone bought a dozen cans of sardines, opened them up and then strategically placed individual sardines in every nook and cranny of her office. I can only imagine how bad that would smell.
     


  8. Thomas

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    Trust me: it's easy to deal with the looks and comments of others when you mentally fast-forward about 15-20 years and realize that your son/daughter has been better-prepared for the vagaries of life and will stand on his/her own two feet. The uphill battle comes in separating your child from his/her peers in what they get away with (e.g. But Johnny has a laptop/stays up until midnight/eats fried twinkies/doesn't do chores). That's where you must be strong, brother.

    Truth, I have publicly embarrassed my son (well...um) and his friends and a few well-meaning adults when I've said, probably louder than I should, that I Don't Care What Other People Do You Are My Son - Not Theirs, and I Make The Rules - Not Them, and Just Because You Got A Very Nice Adult To Tell You It's Okay That Doesn't Override My Judgement.


    But, she's entitled to her day off.
     
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  9. Harold falcon

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    And those sardines are entitled to a home in her office.
     


  10. Thomas

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    :fistbump:
     


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    This woman is fucking doomed if all you're saying is true. No way she'll last. Taking away vacation in the age of employment mobility is the number one way to lose good people. What a dumbass and, as reflected in the above posted generational misanthropy from a Millenial like myself (born in 84), how predictable and depressing. :fu:
     


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    This made me laugh.
     


  13. imatlas

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    I have trouble with the whole "those darn millennials" thing. I am constantly meeting really impressive young people who have started their own businesses and non-profits, and none of them seem especially entitled. As thomas already pointed out, it really comes down to the parenting, and there are bad parents in every generation.
     


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    +1.
     


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    Yeah, you're mom
     


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