Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

[rio]

That's pretty impressive (not even boots you sold...).

You know, I was looking around at some boots elsewhere, but then honestly you guys at Bakers take care of things and this is a reminder to stick with what works (no aspersion cast on Rio... It's a shame he's been so disappointed by a pair of boots he was looking forward to. The fault is with Ultrasound in my opinion. They should do what it takes to make sure the customer is getting what he wants).

100% correct, Kyle and the people at Baker’s are Excellent in all aspects I stated that in previous post, the only reason I order from ultrasound is because I though that model was exclusive to them.

 

[FrankCowperwood]

100% correct, Kyle and the people at Baker’s are Excellent in all aspects I stated that in previous post, the only reason I order from ultrasound is because I though that model was exclusive to them.

Sure, I understand. That makes it even more frustrating that they fumbled it so badly for you.

 

[andy b.]

This thread was extremely helpful in understanding the ins and outs of ordering my first pair of Whites. I took 2 months to read 500 pages of posts before I ordered and have enjoyed checking back here every week since.
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Here is my question: Does anyone have any experience with BH or SJ in both double and single midsole? How much more flexible is the single vs the double midsole? If so, Is it a good idea to opt to pay for one of the midsoles to be removed on a boot that has been built already with a double? There are times when I do wish I had a touch more flexibility especially when moving fast uphill and over rough terrain. What is the turn around time getting your boots resoled at whites?

I have SJs in double midsole, and various other White's and similar "northwest" brands with both single and double midsole. I don't notice much in the way of a difference in flexibility. What I DO notice is the double midsole seems to insulate my feet from the cold better when standing on something like cold concrete, and when hiking over rocks or standing on things like angle iron bracing at work the double midsole prevents the edges from digging into my arches.

 

[Thehaves67]

Anyone know the difference between "brown smooth" and "classic brown". These leather options are listed on the Baker's site. Any pictures of the two would be greatly appreciated.

 

[sambam]

I need your help guys, my boots arrived and I'm very disappointed, they are clearly not the same color as advertise and I ordered 12d and got 12 e, what say you??...

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So it looks like you received mustang oil bullhude but what you wanted was cognac bullhide. If it says bullhide oil it will have a dull finish. If it just says bullhide it will have a shiny finish. Mustang is the brown pic and cognac is yellowish. We will get this straightened out for you. No dealers have exclusive leathers only what we offer .They might call it something different which I wil look into .Also the toe cap and counter are British tan .

 

[mboon85]

I am looking for (sambam?) clarification on the grain of bull hide. i am getting ready to order my first pair of custom White's, having snagged two pair from WhitesRiver on eBay. Most "Black Bullhide" looks like the above bull hide samples but black. However this pair I found on google images (just the vamp, the shaft is bison), and the leather sample shot from a Japanese shop, show a bullhide with a much tighter, less "swirly" grain. Behold:

The catalogue samples seem to suggest the swirlier, more gnarled bull hide is "Oiled Black Bullhide" and the tighter Bullhide referenced in the boot picture is just "Black Bullhide."

I am looking to order 7" Bounty Hunters with roughout shaft, tighter grain bullhide counter, vamp, and cap toe, 430, single midsole, cuban heel.

So, will standard black bullhide ordered from white's be tight like in the above pictured boots or will it be a luck of the draw deal where I might get something that looks elephanty?

 

[mboon85]

Does anyone know of a database or huge collection of custom white's pictures or how to access the combined gallery for this thread? For some reason I remember that being easy but, right now, can't seem to figure out how I used to do that.

 

[linafelt]

I am looking for (sambam?) clarification on the grain of bull hide. i am getting ready to order my first pair of custom White's, having snagged two pair from WhitesRiver on eBay. Most "Black Bullhide" looks like the above bull hide samples but black. However this pair I found on google images (just the vamp, the shaft is bison), and the leather sample shot from a Japanese shop, show a bullhide with a much tighter, less "swirly" grain. Behold:

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The catalogue samples seem to suggest the swirlier, more gnarled bull hide is "Oiled Black Bullhide" and the tighter Bullhide referenced in the boot picture is just "Black Bullhide."

I am looking to order 7" Bounty Hunters with roughout shaft, tighter grain bullhide counter, vamp, and cap toe, 430, single midsole, cuban heel.

So, will standard black bullhide ordered from white's be tight like in the above pictured boots or will it be a luck of the draw deal where I might get something that looks elephanty?

Can you post a link to the site with that catalogue of leathers..? Thanks.

 

[TH3515]

I am looking for (sambam?) clarification on the grain of bull hide. i am getting ready to order my first pair of custom White's, having snagged two pair from WhitesRiver on eBay. Most "Black Bullhide" looks like the above bull hide samples but black. However this pair I found on google images (just the vamp, the shaft is bison), and the leather sample shot from a Japanese shop, show a bullhide with a much tighter, less "swirly" grain. Behold:

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The catalogue samples seem to suggest the swirlier, more gnarled bull hide is "Oiled Black Bullhide" and the tighter Bullhide referenced in the boot picture is just "Black Bullhide."

I am looking to order 7" Bounty Hunters with roughout shaft, tighter grain bullhide counter, vamp, and cap toe, 430, single midsole, cuban heel.

So, will standard black bullhide ordered from white's be tight like in the above pictured boots or will it be a luck of the draw deal where I might get something that looks elephanty?

The "Black Bullhide" boots that were produced recently (including my own pair from January) seem to be of the „swirly-gnarly" variety. Btw this is what I prefer and thus hoped to receive. I haven't seen many boots in the more regular, finely grained bullhide that you seem to prefer, and the ones on indigoshrimp's blog (the black bison x bullhide ones) were made in 2012 – perhaps they had a different bullhide supplier then.
The main difference between the "Oiled Bullhide" and just "Bullhide" leathers seems to be that the latter have a slightly glossy finish and the former (somewhat counter-intuitively) appear dull/matt.

 

[TH3515]

@sambam - the cognac bullhide you posted a picture of is beautiful and very high on my list for future builds. But I don't think it's what was used on the two "Mushroom Bullhide" builds still visible on Ultrasounds facebook and website - that stuff is distinctly greenish and very different from the Cognac and light brown bullhide boots that can also be found there. There's also an even more greenish "Olive Grey Bullhide" which I find very interesting. These leathers must have existed at some point....no?

 

[mboon85]

The water buffalo leather is quite stunning and soft, the boots are leather lined for a more substantial feel but I'm curious how the leather will age.
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does this seem substantial enough to pair with rough out or would its softness feel floppy? it looks so soft, i am wondering if it is tough at all. i can't imagine White's making dainty boots, but man they look soft (in a good way).

 

[mboon85]

Can you post a link to the site with that catalogue of leathers..? Thanks.

https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/earthmarket/item/whites-semi-dress/ .

Not great but has some samples.

 

[sambam]

I am looking for (sambam?) clarification on the grain of bull hide. i am getting ready to order my first pair of custom White's, having snagged two pair from WhitesRiver on eBay. Most "Black Bullhide" looks like the above bull hide samples but black. However this pair I found on google images (just the vamp, the shaft is bison), and the leather sample shot from a Japanese shop, show a bullhide with a much tighter, less "swirly" grain. Behold:

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The catalogue samples seem to suggest the swirlier, more gnarled bull hide is "Oiled Black Bullhide" and the tighter Bullhide referenced in the boot picture is just "Black Bullhide."

I am looking to order 7" Bounty Hunters with roughout shaft, tighter grain bullhide counter, vamp, and cap toe, 430, single midsole, cuban heel.

So, will standard black bullhide ordered from white's be tight like in the above pictured boots or will it be a luck of the draw deal where I might get something that looks elephanty?

Right now our black oil bullhide has a lot of texture to it. We cut the vamps out of the hide closest to the middle or backbone. This is the spot with the most texture. All other pieces are cut further down the hide. On the sample leather swatches picture the texture just depends on where it is cut from. When you order ask for as much texture as possible. We will try our best.

 

[sambam]

@sambam - the cognac bullhide you posted a picture of is beautiful and very high on my list for future builds. But I don't think it's what was used on the two "Mushroom Bullhide" builds still visible on Ultrasounds facebook and website - that stuff is distinctly greenish and very different from the Cognac and light brown bullhide boots that can also be found there. There's also an even more greenish "Olive Grey Bullhide" which I find very interesting. These leathers must have existed at some point....no?

My lead cutter and buyer for the last 35 years just can't recall ever having a mushroom bullhide or even seeing that color. I think the camera is making it look different. Even the British looks different.

 

[rio]

I'm happy to announce that Kyle with Sambam worked their magic and made things right with me 10 fold, I'm very happy and this has made me more of a customer to both , Baker's and Whites. Thank you guys and everybody here at this forum for your input and support, this matter is close as far as I'm concern and Ultrasound your lock of response and hide behind bullshit excuses will cost you in life trust me on that.