Bow Ties

[Hard2Fit]

 

[Hard2Fit]

 

[Hard2Fit]

 

[MTB-85]

From a recent wedding I attended.

Vintage silk from Lewes bowties. Pocket square is Kent Wang's Shinagawa

Cheers

 

[madhat]

There's some excellent ties one here! I'll chime in as a daily bow tie wearer. Even though I'm known for it, I still regularly get comments about them when I'm out and about.
Recently picked up a club round from The Cordial Churchman. They're one of the only ones that offer that style. To be honest, I can see why. It's unique, but it definitely won't be taking the spot of my diamonds! I think the style pairs well with light, Springy patterns and dress, though.

 

[MTB-85]

@Poszetka is firing on all cylinders! I am getting the gold grenadine next!!

 

[am55]

Has anybody tried Giles Hevair? He's an artisan based in Lyon, and specialises in making bow ties himself (self-tie, mostly) from the famous silk woven in the same city, in batches of 1-20 ties. The kicker is the prices, 40-50 EUR for made in France from French silk is surreally low (by comparison, Kimono in Paris, the only other place I am certain has them made in France, is 75-90 EUR/tie).

I'm tempted but would quite like to see some "in the wild" before pulling the trigger. In particular, the "anthracite-burgundy" woven silk tie looks completely different in the 3-4 photos I could find online. I'm also drawn to the gold and red ones but not sure how they'd look outside the studio.

I'd also be interested in any photos of cotton ties worn in the wild, preferably full body photos as opposed to close-ups. I've never worn a cotton tie, whether the long or bow variety, and have no idea how it looks. Again, the photos on GH's site look good, but stock photos can be deceptive...

 

[am55]

Tried both those Polish sites...won't ship to my country, and payment by bank transfer..really?! Pity, the first one in particular has some lovely looking ties.

Are you talking about Poszetka? I've ordered from them last month, paid by PayPal, and the numerous issues the courier generated were very nicely handled by Joanna (28 emails and counting!). I've yet to get the goods due to aforementioned courier issues (if you're in a rush, use DHL, not DPD) but it really is not their fault and the customer service so far has been great.

They also ship to both Australia and Singapore as far as I know, which country is unfortunate enough not to be included?

 

[MTB-85]

Has anybody tried Giles Hevair?

Spoiler

He's an artisan based in Lyon, and specialises in making bow ties himself (self-tie, mostly) from the famous silk woven in the same city, in batches of 1-20 ties. The kicker is the prices, 40-50 EUR for made in France from French silk is surreally low (by comparison, Kimono in Paris, the only other place I am certain has them made in France, is 75-90 EUR/tie).

I'm tempted but would quite like to see some "in the wild" before pulling the trigger. In particular, the "anthracite-burgundy" woven silk tie looks completely different in the 3-4 photos I could find online. I'm also drawn to the gold and red ones but not sure how they'd look outside the studio.

I'd also be interested in any photos of cotton ties worn in the wild, preferably full body photos as opposed to close-ups

. I've never worn a cotton tie, whether the long or bow variety, and have no idea how it looks.

Spoiler

Again, the photos on GH's site look good, but stock photos can be deceptive...

Have not tried GH but I am intrigued by some of the more subtle designs on there.. I might try one out in January...
- and cotton bows are excellent for smart-casual wear. No shine to the fabric and if it is a quality fabric it can be compared to wool in terms of look and wearability. I'm pretty sure the tendency to keep a crease from being tied multiple times is higher I'm cotton though...
I'll take a few photos later today for your consideration.

 

[MTB-85]

here is a 90/10 wool/silk from Berg&Berg alongside a cotton crew neck from Brooks Brothers.
The herringbone coat is wool mix.
Lovely texture and on the light side due to absence of interlining.

 

[Jay Suave]

Has anybody tried Giles Hevair? He's an artisan based in Lyon, and specialises in making bow ties himself (self-tie, mostly) from the famous silk woven in the same city, in batches of 1-20 ties.

I recommend you check out leloirenepapillon

 

[am55]

I recommend you check out leloirenepapillon

Unfortunately, Parisian-priced (i.e. around 80 EUR for most and 120 EUR for the special ones). If I wanted to pay that much I'd go straight to Sam Hober. Even at 45 EUR it is a tempting proposition and only a latent Gaullism and curiosity about one of the last remaining industries of our country leads me to the likes of Hevair.

I'd be interested in hearing from those who have made their own bow ties, especially from old neckties. I have a LOT of neckties, most of which will never be worn again. In particular, bow tie can benefit from louder patterns since less silk is exposed, so I can both get rid of too loud a tie and make a nice bow tie at the same time.

 

[paxonus]

From the movie Phantom Thread.

 

[am55]

Poszetka woolen aubergine:

Honestly, it took a lot of mental effort to wear because the lining and the wool are so thick as to make a very large, asymmetrical knot, and at times I felt like I had a potato around the neck. But this shot shows relative proportionality. It was perhaps a tad informal for the night.

In contrast, the navy woolen one is much thinner, it feels unlined and made of a softer wool, perhaps merino or cashmere, despite an identical description and similar picture to the aubergine. More appropriate for an autumn evening. I don't have a satisfactory photo of it worn that captures its softer nature, but it's closer to silk and in the same width (i.e. slightly larger than usual).

Both are much harder to tie satisfactorily than the silk ones and I think I will stick to silk going forward, maybe try a linen.

Here is the black tie one, tied, to show how soft it is and how it naturally ties a more relaxed knot:

Whether this is for you depends on how you view black tie. A more formal feel could be had with a thicker silk that holds a squarer knot; this light and fun knot fits my idea of black tie better.

Well, these are tremendous value anyway. I'm ruminating my next purchase. Probably the green polka dots (I'm avoiding the Churchill one despite the temptation) and maybe the purple one.

 

[am55]

From the movie Phantom Thread.

Much as I admired and enjoyed everything he owned in that movie - bow tie included - the plot did not turn out quite as expected. Despite being devoid of even a second of graphical material, it managed more shock value than an Avengers release... well played, Mr. Director, I guess.