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Best/Worst Bang for the Buck

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by McCurry, May 5, 2011.

  1. Dbear

    Dbear Senior member

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    what is this magic brand that turns into BOO w/ just one $10 alteration

    and before you say JC, i've owned JC shirts in the past - fabric is terrible, cut is mall-generous, and what's more, they steal patterns from the likes of W+H


    I think what he means is that you spend ~$10 and have a shirt hemmed on the bottom to achieve a more cropped look. You can do this with ... say... Gitman. Granted, Gitman shirts are like ~$130-$150. Still cheaper than the ~$200+ BoO.
     
  2. Dbear

    Dbear Senior member

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    Best: Alden.

    Worst: Banana/Jcrew. It's as if they purposely make their clothes fall apart within a year, so you'll rebuy it next season...

    ...actually, it's GENIUS!
     
  3. gladhands

    gladhands Senior member

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    I think what he means is that you spend ~$10 and have a shirt hemmed on the bottom to achieve a more cropped look. You can do this with ... say... Gitman. Granted, Gitman shirts are like ~$130-$150. Still cheaper than the ~$200+ BoO.

    Or Gant
     
  4. notwithit

    notwithit Senior member

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    I think what he means is that you spend ~$10 and have a shirt hemmed on the bottom to achieve a more cropped look. You can do this with ... say... Gitman. Granted, Gitman shirts are like ~$130-$150. Still cheaper than the ~$200+ BoO.

    Yeah, you need a decent base to start from, since there's not much you can do about the pattern, the fabric, or the construction of the seams you're not going to alter. You also need the shirt to fit in the shoulders and have reasonably high-cut armholes if you want to end up with a decently slim fit.

    You'd need up to five alterations - tapered body, slimmed sleeves, cropped hem, and back darts x 2 - to get all of the details, and you need a tailor who's not going to mess it all up. I'd say you can easily drop another $20 - $30 on the alterations, definitely more if you're going to an expensive tailor.

    I'd say the best bang for the buck for button-up/button-down shirts is going MTM.
     
  5. aaaeeeiiiooouuu

    aaaeeeiiiooouuu Senior member

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    I think what he means is that you spend ~$10 and have a shirt hemmed on the bottom to achieve a more cropped look. You can do this with ... say... Gitman. Granted, Gitman shirts are like ~$130-$150. Still cheaper than the ~$200+ BoO.

    Yep, Gitman shirts are great quality but they're only about $50 cheaper than BOO. Plus, like you said, they run a little longer. Also, another thing - BOO has some pretty good patterns/designs. Yeah, the schoolboy aesthetic might not be for everyone, but I happen to actually like it

    I think J. Crew have some of the most overpriced shirts. You're overpaying for what is basically a knock-off of better brands:

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  6. Knisse

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    I think most plaid shirts are "knock-off" of some already made...

    I bet W+Hs are "stolen" from some other place, thats how it goes.
     
  7. tesuquegolfer

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    Best: Jane & Wendy at the same time!!!

    [​IMG] Sorry couldn't resist!
     
  8. babump

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    Worst: Nancy Best: Jane & Wendy at the same time!!! [​IMG] Sorry couldn't resist!
    LOL
     
  9. omar white

    omar white Senior member

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    I think most plaid shirts are "knock-off" of some already made...

    I bet W+Hs are "stolen" from some other place, thats how it goes.


    amen. the idea that these companies have created a plaid is nuts. go to a thrift store and pick up a John Ashford, Chaps or Sears shirt with a similar idea... that being said, i dig the cut/pattern combo of a lot of the brands mentioned (BoO, W+H, Gitman, etc) and dont mind when Jcrew steals an idea or two and i can grab it for over a hundred bills less....
     
  10. reedobandito

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    Yep, Gitman shirts are great quality but they're only about $50 cheaper than BOO. Plus, like you said, they run a little longer. Also, another thing - BOO has some pretty good patterns/designs. Yeah, the schoolboy aesthetic might not be for everyone, but I happen to actually like it

    I think J. Crew have some of the most overpriced shirts. You're overpaying for what is basically a knock-off of better brands:

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    Those are some impressive Googling skills. And trust me dude, I agree with you about the BoO shirts. They are literally the perfect casual button down, but show me a person who pays retail for them and I'll show you a fool. Oh, two other overpriced brands? Anything by Balmain or Balenciaga. Christ
     
  11. g transistor

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    Best: American Apparel & Naked and Famous ($200 all you need for your entire jeans budget) Worst: H&M (nothing will last for more than a short while)
    Naked and Famous fuckin sucks. I've had two pairs of denim and they've both crapped out within a few months. Meanwhile I wore my H&M jeans almost everyday for a year and they have just recently blown. N&F isn't much cheaper than APC anyways.
    Anything at half the price + $10 to your tailor.
    This is fucking stupid, and is always brought up.
     
  12. linkinwayne

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    Naked and Famous fuckin sucks. I've had two pairs of denim and they've both crapped out within a few months. Meanwhile I wore my H&M jeans almost everyday for a year and they have just recently blown. N&F isn't much cheaper than APC anyways.
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    Weren't you the guy who came into the N&F thread and got completely shat on because you thought longevity = quality? I can get some $10 clothes from Costco that last a good number of years


    This is fucking stupid, and is always brought up.
    Strong argument
     
  13. brad-t

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    Weren't you the guy who came into the N&F thread and got completely shat on because you thought longevity = quality? I can get some $10 clothes from Costco that last a good number of year


    OK, but we're talking about fucking denim here, a fabric that pretty much exists because it's durable. The point of raw denim is to wear it hard and get sick fadez, so shouldn't they be more durable than $40 H&M jeans?
     
  14. g transistor

    g transistor Senior member

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Weren't you the guy who came into the N&F thread and got completely shat on because you thought longevity = quality? I can get some $10 clothes from Costco that last a good number of years Strong argument
    First off, no, I wasn't but go ahead and find it. This isn't a fucking argument about the elusive definition of quality, this is an argument about getting the most for your money, which longevity obviously falls under. If you're paying $120 or whatever for denim and they bust in three months, that's good mileage for your dollar? Considering you can shell out a little bit more money you can get Petit standards or some 3sixteens or something (which are cut much better in terms of fit), N&F is NOT worth it. But I guess some people like to throw kevlar into their blend so they can go all Sam Fisher while wearing some Red Wings I gave my H&M denim as an example because it's not Wal-Mart jeans, it's cut very well and for ~$40, their pants are definitely worth it. RE BoO: My argument doesn't need any explanation, because "take it to the tailor lolol" is literally the dumbest fucking thing ever. Why don't you just buy Gap and take it to the tailor? The cut from BoO is a whole different beast from what a tailor can do for $10, and I'm not even arguing that BoO isn't a rip-off at retail, it's just that assholes like you need to stop being dumb about shit you don't know.
     
  15. C-Note

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    You're arguing that APCs are better for the money than N&F... Hmmm...
     
  16. aaaeeeiiiooouuu

    aaaeeeiiiooouuu Senior member

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    I agree that APC are more durable than N&F

    I've owned both and objectively, APC denim > N&F denim
     
  17. Kagemusha

    Kagemusha Senior member

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    Why don't you just buy Gap and take it to the tailor? The cut from BoO is a whole different beast from what a tailor can do for $10, and I'm not even arguing that BoO isn't a rip-off at retail, it's just that assholes like you need to stop being dumb about shit you don't know.


    True...but a tailor can make a shirt fit BETTER than BoO for the right amount of money. To say that it's 'fucking stupid' to buy cheaper stuff and take to a tailor is just wrong. If I have $100 for a shirt......I'd rather buy a $50 shirt and pay a tailor $20 to make it almost perfect, rather than have a $100 shirt that has a little bit to be desired. Sure the fabric may be better, but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't fit you snug in the right places.
     
  18. linkinwayne

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    First off, no, I wasn't but go ahead and find it.

    This isn't a fucking argument about the elusive definition of quality, this is an argument about getting the most for your money, which longevity obviously falls under. If you're paying $120 or whatever for denim and they bust in three months, that's good mileage for your dollar? Considering you can shell out a little bit more money you can get Petit standards or some 3sixteens or something (which are cut much better in terms of fit), N&F is NOT worth it. But I guess some people like to throw kevlar into their blend so they can go all Sam Fisher while wearing some Red Wings

    I gave my H&M denim as an example because it's not Wal-Mart jeans, it's cut very well and for ~$40, their pants are definitely worth it.


    Oh, okay. Saw someone a few months ago who had the same argument.

    Again, if I get $10 jeans that look like shit but last for a year, that'll be getting 'the most for your money'. [​IMG]

    OK, but we're talking about fucking denim here, a fabric that pretty much exists because it's durable. The point of raw denim is to wear it hard and get sick fadez, so shouldn't they be more durable than $40 H&M jeans?
    I'm not sure what his particular problem with the jeans was, but I think it's probably something hardware-related. The first few batches of N&F had a number of these problems (buttons popping off etc) but they've improved a lot since then. If you go through the N&F thread, you'll see there are practically no complaints nowadays, compared to the first few pages. I highly doubt he ripped apart the fabric of two pairs of jeans, so the only other likely problem I can think of is crotch blowout. That shit really depends on how tight you wear it, and it happens even with the 'best' Japanese repro jeans.

    I agree that APC are more durable than N&F

    I've owned both and objectively, APC denim > N&F denim


    I've owned many pairs of both and about the only thing I'd put APC above N&F for is a nicer back pocket design. They're hardly more durable, I got a crotch blowout on my old New Cures after a few months. I've had a whole bunch of N&F jeans for about a year or more now, and have never had such a problem.
     
  19. thekunk07

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    calling $250 a quarter of a grand is pretty good. I need you arouynd when I am making offers to employees.

    Worst: Band of Outsiders

    I love their pieces, and they have graet cuts and designs, but their prices are outrageous. I had a local stockist tell me he wouldn't sell their stuff because no one would take it until it was 70% off. Ridiculous. And those buttons. You pay a quarter of a grand for a shirt, you expect the buttons to stay on until you're out of the store.
     
  20. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

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    hard to knock off a plaid shirt dummy.

    I hate how swimming pools knock off lakes and the ocean.

    Yep, Gitman shirts are great quality but they're only about $50 cheaper than BOO. Plus, like you said, they run a little longer. Also, another thing - BOO has some pretty good patterns/designs. Yeah, the schoolboy aesthetic might not be for everyone, but I happen to actually like it

    I think J. Crew have some of the most overpriced shirts. You're overpaying for what is basically a knock-off of better brands:

    [​IMG]

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