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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by earthdragon, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Romp

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    So you're ditching the jeans and tee for a french cuff + bling?

    I think i have a french shirt from about 10 years ago buried in my wardrobe and also a dinner shirt with studs.

    I can see the value of the bling factor on the dinner shirt however I much prefer the simplicity and practicality of a nice button for every day wear.
     
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    What a bunch of old fuddy duddy spoilsports.

    The Harvey Normans of the sartorial world.

    This is what is holding Australia back!


    Maybe, maybe...

    ...canvas/summer/boating shoes of course. They can be thrown in the washing machine.

    But any leather shoes I've worn sockless end up smelling so much they hav to be chucked.
     
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    +1

    Australia is terribly complacent and is horrendous in capital allocation towards industries utilising knowledge base that comes from the advantage of education. We throw subsidies at old clunking manufacturing, and reduces R & D incentives for developers of technology which makes the manufacturing more efficient. All ostensibly to protect jobs, but in reality, it is to protect votes by appeasing powerful unions.

    I see the same argument playing up with the automatic check-out machines at the grocers. The machines are there because the demand is there. I hear the same old arguments repeated ad nauseaum with introduction of any new technology eg ATMs, online billing, automatic tollgates, etc.

    To give you a ludicrous example of how bad we are at funding technology, a recent Australian startup has to go to the US to get funding, and the funding was provided 70% by Australian investors. Am I the only one who sees this with real sadness?

    As for the lost of young people's jobs as check-out blokes and chicks, I actually rejoice at the idea. My mate operates a start-up and he is screaming for good switched-on young graphic designers with a modicum of work ethics and initiative. The business is growing at 100% plus per annum in a market with zero competitors. Another client of mine needs administrative assistants able to handle the paperwork in a shipping/logistics business. And I can go on and on. A scarcity of Harvey Norman and other shit brain dead jobs means better futures for young people willing to take the initiative and work hard at higher level jobs.

    Read up Lee Kuan Yew's book, especially his take on India, where he had the experience of five persons at a golf club pampering him, from taking off his shoes to giving him a towel and getting him a drink. That is job creation for the unaware.



    You're on the Money here P/Pan....the de-skilling of the Australian economy is a problem indeed - especially for the prospects of a future middle class, an entrepreneurial class, and at least of modicum of Australian sovereignty.
     
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    Thanks guys, gonna go with socks with my wholecuts and I'll try to get a photo up later.
    As I said earlier: any news on the TM Lewin Casual line and are they at any of the Melbourne Myer stores.

    Thanks
     
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    Having a coffee and a tart at Alimentari--great tip, whoever that was.
     
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    Time to invest in some invisble socks my friend. Best investment I've made in a while. Gone are the days of smelly shoes. I reccomend the french brand Achiles, available on their website.
     
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    ill take credit thanks:)

    EDIT: if you are still there you must eat the baked cheesecake - its from Papas!!! best EVER
     
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    Good call rhu...I'll check it out. diva
     
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    All this talk of french cuffs and no love for silk knots?
     
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    I personally quite like silk knots, but unfortunately a lot of the population look at them and think "too cheap to buy cufflinks and just using those elastic thingys that came with the shirt".
     
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    Point taken romp....my interest in the cufflinks is more of a professional thing - I design them for others to wear! - I come from a long line of sartorialists... its in the blood (outfitters to the gentry - late of Manchester)

    ME - well I dress like a Hobo (ask my daughter) and there's no question I need to clean up my act here! And yes its plain sleeved shirts and jeans etc. Alas 'Rome was'nt built in a day' + 'old habits die hard' etc etc
    But I'll get there....with a bit of help...
    diva
     
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    aka utilitarian :p

    Now that I am going down the MTM shirt route, I am going to try to order shirts with features taken from two rough groups based roughly around seasons (which sort of dictate how often I wear a jacket and tie) and what I think fits well together.

    I'm sure I won't stick to this totally, but something like:

    "Formal"/winter - to be worn most often with both tie and jacket
    -no placket
    -french cuffs
    -spread/point collars
    -conservative & traditional solid colours and fabrics
    -heavier fabrics and weaves

    "Informal"/summer - the flexibility to be worn sans tie and jacket if required
    -lighter fabrics and weaves
    -more patterns & colours
    -BD collars/box pleats/plackets
    -button cuffs
    -cutaway collars
    -little shorter perhaps so that some of them can be worn untucked as well

    Not "rules", but just my opinion on what works well together. I guess for me its all about balance, e.g. French cuffs and cufflinks are a bit "fancier", and are more for the winter (they look odd when wearing slacks instead of a suit, for example), and so pairing them with a basic colour and fabric works well. Plaids, checks & stripes have enough interest in themselves that pairing them with french cuffs is a bit OTT.
     
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    Yeah for sure - if cufflinks is your thing there is definitely a market for it!

    If you could make me some braided leather cufflinks that'd be sweet. And also silk knots i dont mind.. its just the metallic ones i find too formal/dressy but its all relative to each person's own style and environment.
    sounds good - If you plan to wear sans tie see how the button placement is.. a slightly lower 2nd button helps bridge the gap between too high "nerdy" and too low "gigilo"

    Also consider the fusing/interlining in the cuffs/collars. I like my casual shirts to have very lightweight interlining
     
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    Good point re buttons did not think of that.

    Does anyone have any general advice on fused v un-fused in specific collar types? Ie does fused work better for, say, a wide cutaway? or is it all personal preference?

    Never been in a position to choose! My first MTM shirt had unfused collar and cuffs which I loved, but I'm not sure that it would have enough hold and shape for some collar types ie a curved cutaway.
     
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    depends on fabric too

    you could go heavy interlining?
     
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