Ande Whall Denim

[onion]

Originally Posted by KitAkira

Even if this were true, fact of the matter is that AW uses 14.5oz RHT Sanforized denim (dyed with synthetic indigo for anyone who cares about that). Samurai uses denim up to 24oz in weight, sanforized and unsanforized, RHT and LHT, with dyes ranging from standard to overdye to charcoal to persimmon. PBJ is actually cheaper and uses 14.5oz really slubby denim for nearly all of their models, they have a unique fit (sometimes criticized), and models like the 007, 010, and 011. Sugarcane uses denim with sugarcane fibers woven in and cotton from Zimbabwe and Texas, and one of the interesting details are their patches, which range from regular leather to snakeskin, hair-on-horsehide, and buffalo. And then there's also, Somet, SDA, Eternal, Warehouse, etc.

1. I'm more than aware of everything you posted. This ain't my first rodeo.

Also I was sort of kidding about the 99%. I thought it was obvious, though apparently not...

My only point was that of all the brands discussed here for just normal, medium weight, high quality, selvage, slim fit, raw denim below $300 AW is imo hands down the best.

 

[theom-]

Originally Posted by PolePosition

For that price range you cannot objectively say one pair of jeans is better than the other.

Which denim do you like? Which fits do you like? Which details do you like?...don't let somebody else make the decision for you if what they like is not the same as what you like.

+ 1,000,000

Personally I don't see any Ande Whall models that would fit how i like so its not worth the money to me. But the details make it worth the money if there is a model that fits you well.

 

[masterllama]

what everyone is trying to say to the marsupials who say that ande whall is better than 99% of the high-end exclusive japanese brands is this:

the price has been increased to the same ballpark as the top japanese brands. it will have a lot more competition with other companies that produce similar to better quality jeans with different characteristics.

sure you can say that you can't rate one top company better than the other. but the truth of the matter is that ande whall was never competing with these top companies before but with the price hike its inevitable now.

as for me, i'll pay the little extra and get the flat heads, samurais, somets, iron hearts, etc. and leave the linen patch and steel rivets behind.

for those who say i have a biased opinion, i actually own a pair of the grifters so i know what the quality of ande whall is like.

 

[Veggie]

I measured my top thigh and it came out to 22 inches, the grifters top thigh is at 11.4. Would that be cutting it too close?

 

[Listi]

Originally Posted by Veggie

I measured my top thigh and it came out to 22 inches, the grifters top thigh is at 11.4. Would that be cutting it too close?
Grifters are meant to be tight in the thighs, mine were extremely so, and it was awesome. ps it will stretch

 

[Veggie]

Originally Posted by Listi

Grifters are meant to be tight in the thighs, mine were extremely so, and it was awesome. ps it will stretch

Thanks, is this unsoaked or soaked?

 

[Chinook]

He had sanforized grifters. So did I, I had crazy tight thighs. I sized up this run.

and by sized up, I mean my waist is a bit of an inbetween 30 and 31.

 

[ConcernedParent]

Originally Posted by PolePosition

New as in the latest iteration that we are discussing? Yes please do report back.

But back to the "perceived quality downgrade"...what downgrade are we talking about here? He is obviously using what he considers to be better denim, as many of the other jean shops using denim from Okayama are charging the same price or more. He is still doing these all by hand and is putting a lot of his own personal touches to the jeans....just curious thats all. I myself was waiting for these jeans for some time. I didn't mind the price hike, as I felt it was justified, but for me the issue, the deciding factor is as small as using an uglier patch lol.

I was referring specifically to the patch.

 

[Chinook]

Mine shipped today. We'll be able to settle this in less than 14 days.

 

[brad-t]

Originally Posted by ConcernedParent

I was referring specifically to the patch.

that patch is really lame

 

[Veggie]

Originally Posted by Chinook

Mine shipped today. We'll be able to settle this in less than 14 days.

I can't wait to see you post pics!

 

[Napaswar]

Ande Whall is one of my favorite jeans. I've SZ-SI and SZ-BK. For the patch, although I prefer leather patch, this patch is still OK to me and I'd buy it soon.

 

[Veggie]

For sanforized grifters should I get TTS on the inseam?

 

[KitAkira]

TTS or +1" (read the info on his site, I don't know about the new denim but he normally has a ton of info about sizing and whatnot)

 

[Chinook]

Got mine today.

Pictures in five hours...

The denim is NOT streaky.