Ande Whall Denim

[mr. burns]

i was eyeballing APC but now these have me intrigued. considering levi 514 are all i have for a basis of comparison and seeing how slim these are, would i be better off going with the cougar over the grifter?

 

[whacked]

Originally Posted by ken

^^
Yes, especially considering that APC are worth considerably less than their retail, and Ande Whall is worth considerably more than theirs.

Originally Posted by evilgeniusdan

Correct.

That's only if a cut Ande makes works for you. For myself, the lack of a straight cut is a deal-breaker.


Also, APC backpocket stitching (or lackthere of) >>> Ande's.

 

[xchen]

I loved the Ande Whall jeans with the thumbs up back pocket stitching. I wish he'd bring that design back, honestly.

 

[evilgeniusdan]

Originally Posted by whacked

That's only if a cut Ande makes works for you. For myself, the lack of a straight cut is a deal-breaker. Also, APC backpocket stitching (or lackthere of) >>> Ande's.
Cougar? There is only a slight taper, so as to provide the appearance of a straight cut. I like the new arcuates, but I feel they look better on the butt than they do with the jeans lying flat.

 

[whacked]

Originally Posted by evilgeniusdan

Cougar? There is only a slight taper, so as to provide the appearance of a straight cut.

I like the new arcuates, but I feel they look better on the butt than they do with the jeans lying flat.

I wouldn't call a 1-1.5" taper from knee to hem slight. Plus I have small waist and big thighs, so all but the slightest taper would make me look carrot-top. Suppose I'm a hard fit tho, as even the "relaxed" cuts from many makers fit snug on me.



Ya, I reckon all details are personal preference. But there's a reason APC is so popular, even among people who know better denim. Their cuts are great.

 

[xchen]

+1 on APC cuts being great. The New Standard is probably my favorite cut of all the jeans I know.

 

[dfagdfsh]

Originally Posted by whacked

I wouldn't call a 1-1.5" taper from knee to hem slight. Plus I have small waist and big thighs, so all but the slightest taper would make me look carrot-top. Suppose I'm a hard fit tho, as even the "relaxed" cuts from many makers fit snug on me.



Ya, I reckon all details are personal preference. But there's a reason APC is so popular, even among people who know better denim. Their cuts are great.

the idea of a 'cut' for apc is almost meaningless considering how much the denim stretches in all dimensions

 

[whacked]

Originally Posted by Teger

the idea of a 'cut' for apc is almost meaningless considering how much the denim stretches in all dimensions

Doesn't DH 19cm denim stretch just as much?

 

[dfagdfsh]

Originally Posted by whacked

Doesn't DH 19cm denim stretch just as much?

no nothing stretches as much as apc, diors are just vanity sized edit: I'm kind of drunk (two mai tais at dinner to dull the suond of screaming family members children) and I want to say that you are one of my least favorite posters xchen and your polo tattoo isn't funny ironic its just straight marsupialed. everything about you is contrived, you make workwear look painfully boring and for some reason your waywt posts depress me on some deep, fundamental level, like you unhinge my faith in a positive outlook for the future of humanity.

 

[grandmasterv1]

If only apc didn't stretch.

 

[skunkworks]

Originally Posted by Teger

edit: I'm kind of drunk (two mai tais at dinner to dull the suond of screaming family members children) and I want to say that you are one of my least favorite posters xchen and your polo tattoo isn't funny ironic its just straight marsupialed. everything about you is contrived, you make workwear look painfully boring and for some reason your waywt posts depress me on some deep, fundamental level, like you unhinge my faith in a positive outlook for the future of humanity.
lol merry christmas. APC cuts are great. But yeah, the denim quality, hardware, and detailing on APCs are not worth $150+. The shallow front pockets also really bug me. They were great as an intro to raw denim, but I ended up moving onto 5EPxSF and PRPS after 6 months of good wear. I'll keep them as a beater pair and for sentiment.

 

[dfagdfsh]

the cuts are ok, the NS is decent, imo the Rescue is probably the best, but comparing the denim quality to ande whall (who uses cone mill) is some marsupialed ****. the reason ande whall charges $50 more than APC is becuase he doesn't have to pay for things like lookbooks or advertising or stores and he's not a wholesaler selling to a store that then marks up the product. its like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[iroh]

Originally Posted by Teger

the cuts are ok, the NS is decent, imo the Rescue is probably the best, but comparing the denim quality to ande whall (who uses cone mill) is some marsupialed ****. the reason ande whall charges $50 more than APC is becuase he doesn't have to pay for things like lookbooks or advertising or stores and he's not a wholesaler selling to a store that then marks up the product. its like comparing apples and oranges.
huh? edit: ok, makes sense now

 

[dfagdfsh]

Originally Posted by iroh

huh?

people are comparing ande whall to apc because the price points are similar, but ande whall is able to sell far higher quality denim (cone mill) on an item with hand construction because he has very little overhead (like APC does) and, I'm sure, pretty small margins. ande whall is unique in that basically all of what you're paying him for is the construction of the jean and the materials it's made of

 

[xchen]

Teger, you are a massive tool. Reading your posts proves to me that you don't know jack **** about anything.